Ok this is wierd and it keeps happening. Earlier today I installed some microsoft update and then restarted my computer. I had to go do something and when I came back the computer was still on the white screen with the apple (after 30 mins.) So I waited there and it still wouldnt start back after 40 mins and then im thinkin "Im screwed." So then I realize my ipod headphones are plugged into my ibook (g4) and the second I pulled them out it went to the next screen where it finally loaded. I installed a security update after that and reinstalled once again, this time purposely leaving the headphones in. Again the computer stalled until the headphones were pulled out. Once again I restarted, this time without any updates and the problem didn't repeat. Any clue on whats causin this? I know I could just unplug the things but Im just wondering why this does this, and is any software causin it.