Hi all Well I'm not too familiar with debug just yet, which is unfortunate because I'm now getting the famous exc_bad_access error somewhere in my code. Well, I've picked up enough info to enable zombies but from here I'm at a loss. I've been trying to track it back to the offending line of code but I'm stuck. I did backtrace, which didn't reveal much then I looked at the stack and that looked like it gave me some hints but when I used a bunch of breakpoints in the methods I thought it was telling had the offending code, it didn't help. I even tried Enable Guard Malloc and using the info <instance> but that didn't reveal much either. On the debugger window it stops at: 0x00ea5057 <+0183> call 0xf6e48e <dyld_stub_getpid> Whatever that means. Coming from a procedural language this is quite frustrating trying to identify the bad code. Any more tips? Thanks!