Herman Miller Mirra 2 Office Chair

[c073186]

Does anyone here have experience with the Herman Miller Mirra 2 chair? Furthermore, do you wear dress pants while using it?

Strange sounding question I know - but I'm thinking of getting one and I have read in some places that the Aeron chair can cause eventual fraying/damage to dress clothes (apparently related to the mesh seating material), and I figured that since the Mirra is a similarly designed chair, that if true could have the same issue.

Just wondering if anyone has ever seen/experienced clothes wear and tear from Aeron or Mirra 2 chairs?

Thanks

 

[shinji]

Does anyone here have experience with the Herman Miller Mirra 2 chair? Furthermore, do you wear dress pants while using it?

Strange sounding question I know - but I'm thinking of getting one and I have read in some places that the Aeron chair can cause eventual fraying/damage to dress clothes (apparently related to the mesh seating material), and I figured that since the Mirra is a similarly designed chair, that if true could have the same issue.

Just wondering if anyone has ever seen/experienced clothes wear and tear from Aeron or Mirra 2 chairs?

Thanks

No issues with the Aeron damaging my clothes. It's a fantastic chair.

 

[0388631]

Shouldn't happen. The Mirra 2 doesn't have the Aeron's flaw of a sharper thigh rest end. It won't wear out dress pants quicker.

 

[A.Goldberg]

I've never had a problem with the Aeron chair ruining my clothes. Interesting topic though.

 

[0388631]

I've never had a problem with the Aeron chair ruining my clothes. Interesting topic though.

I've never had the issue either. My work chair is an Aeron. I believe it comes down to an improperly sized chair. Ideally, any chair with a sloping thigh rest is great for improving circulation in the lower extremities. Mesh chairs are possibly the greatest invention for one's sitting health. They do wear out and the material does need replacing every 3-4 years, but it's better than a flattened cushion. From a hygenic perspective, mesh chairs are inherently cleaner and will possess less smell and bacterial colonies, and won't induce topic skin issues such as miliaria that may occur through long term sitting, low breathability clothing and overactive sweat glands or individuals who run hotter than others, so to speak. Though I've heard of this happening to people who carry excess weight. Though I'd argue there are many options in the luxury office chair category that are the same as Herman Miller's products or better, mesh or otherwise.

My chair at home is a very plush executives chair that uses real leather. The couch in my home office is also plush. It's very comforting to sit back and be lulled to sleep by something so comfortable.

 

[Perene]

I'll bump this thread to answer the original question with a quote from a post I made in another forum:

Note: I bought today a new chair for 558 USD (1750 BRL), this time from a local manufacturer. It has a mesh back with a padded fabric:
http://www.cavaletti.com.br/linhas/detalhes/produto/28001-ac-_X227/linha/c3-_X24

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Aeron REMASTERED:

I had to return this "wonderful" chair from Herman Miller.

And discovered something important: there is no such thing as "the best chair".

I paid the equivalent to 1686 USD (or 5250 BRL, local currency) and within 2 days they refunded 100% of what I spent. All that money is already available to me. The solution was so fast I couldn't believe it.

The Aeron was delivered 4 days ago.

The reasons? The chair came defective in the tilt mechanism. It was broken. Don't know how that happened. Perhaps someone used and they sent me anyway, perhaps it was damaged during the 15 days I waited for it to arrive. I offered the store the choice to send me a new chair (at first they wanted me to wait weeks for repairs - something I denied, since you can't buy a Ferrari and fix it in the 1st day (considering it was not your fault), any intelligent person would return it immediately) or collect the one I received and refunded the money. They opted for the latter due to distrust in shipping companies (and the distance from them to my location is equivalent to the one from Florida to California) or additional costs they would have.

As for the chair, I am glad it came defective since I would also need to purchase this product:
https://u-fo.com/

To solve my discomfort with the mesh. I couldn't stand to sit in it for more than minutes. This link explains why:
https://www.btod.com/blog/2017/01/29/6-common-problems-with-mesh-office-chairs/

For a lot less I'll stick with a cheaper alternative. As for the benefits this chair offers for sitting in the right posture, they can't be denied, but what good are they if my thighs don't like the Aeron?

Some photos and videos:

http://imgur.com/a/9Jvvu (the table I am going to use to read my tablet)

What came with the Aeron:
http://postimg.org/gallery/31694q1wa/

Another issue I noted (highlighted in this image): https://postimg.org/image/6mzrcgj4p/

From the box: http://imgur.com/a/5NiEy
Weight: http://i.imgur.com/whnXzLv.jpg
Label: http://i.imgur.com/HqgJtL6.jpg sends me here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M4NTYB3

In this video I found you can see everything OK: https://goo.gl/tPy7mh

How I received mine: https://goo.gl/MGxsqY

More proof mine came defective: https://goo.gl/Lut7jg

In here I am trying the tilt mechanisms:

More photos: http://postimg.org/gallery/26khl1flo/
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And to confirm what I was talking about...
https://pastebin.com/dxnwFUQC

Don Chadwick, the co-designer of the Aeron, says he wasn't hired to design the ideal product for an eight-hour-workday; he was hired to update Herman Miller's previous best-seller. "We were given a brief and basically told to design the next-generation office chair," he says.

And in this video look at this comment:

Mirra is better for YOU.

I've heard alot of stories that i can confirm now; that the seatpan on the Mirra is great at cutting off circulation and is in general nowhere near as comfortable as a standard high density foam seatpan. In short mesh is for backs only, NOT seatpans. It's a real shame too, because everything else on the Mirra is great , especially the recline.

In Amazon...

https://www.amazon.com/Herman-Miller-Mirra-Task-Chair/dp/B00HQP0W5K

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This is the most uncomfortable chair I've ever sat in
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I do not know why this chair is getting such good reviews because this is the worst chair I've ever sat in. Our company, a major bank, purchased new chairs for everyone in the building and did not bother to tell us we were getting new chairs. The old ones were very comfortable. One day they were just gone and replaced with these awful Herman Miller chairs. They even took the backrest that I had attached to my original chair away with it. However that is irrelevant to this review. The reasons why this chair is so uncomfortable is because of multiple problems.

There is no padding for the seating area. When you sit on this chair the seat is not flat, you sort of sink in a little bit (kinda reminds me of those awful foldable chairs with no support you would buy for camping) which makes it very painful for my hips. I brought in a pillow from home to put on the chair and it seems to help a TINY bit but not enough to make my hips not hurt. I cannot adjust the seat depth to go from front to back, I can only make the very front edge roll (or more aptly put - curl) downwards towards the floor, this does not increase comfort as it digs into my calves. The only chairs my company did not replace are in the conference rooms so I had to steal the chair from that location and swap it with the new Herman Miller one at my desk.

It is still not as comfortable as my old chair but it's better than this Herman Miller chair. ANY chair would be more comfortable that this Herman Miller chair. No one I know in my company likes these chairs. I do not recommend this chair for anyone, especially somebody who has just had surgery or has orthopedic problems. I can't believe my company spent major $$$ for these non ergonomic chairs - what a waste of money.
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I think it looks nice. This chair is really badly designed for some ...
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This chair is really badly designed for some people I would think. The main issue I have with the chair is that the seat does not go far enough back against the backrest. There is no seat depth adjustment, and when I sit far enough back so that my back comfortable hits the backrest and the posture-fit at the bottom of the backrest, my tailbone sits on the HARD plastic rim/edge of the seat. I mean... just look at your Mirra 2... see that HUGE gap between the seat and the backrest...? Why...? Why is there this huge gap...? Because it freaking looks good? I have an Aeron here beside me and I also notice that my tail bone almost hits the same HARD plastic rim/edge of the seat. But unlilke the Mirra 2, the Aeron doesn't have that huge gap there...

Also, there is the HARD plastic on the edge of the seat at the front which digs into your legs unless you keep your legs closed all day. The original Mirra did not have these issues at all. The original Mirra had foam up front and the backrest was closer to the seat by a good amount. Also, the Mirra 2's backrest does not flex as much as the original Mirra and feels quite stiffer in comparison. This is probably due to the useless plastic loop the designers decided to add to the Mirra 2. Go watch the Youtube video, those people are designers, people who appear to love how pretty they can make things look. I'm looking for function. How someone people have the jobs that they have is beyond me...

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[Scepticalscribe]

I've never had the issue either. My work chair is an Aeron. I believe it comes down to an improperly sized chair. Ideally, any chair with a sloping thigh rest is great for improving circulation in the lower extremities. Mesh chairs are possibly the greatest invention for one's sitting health. They do wear out and the material does need replacing every 3-4 years, but it's better than a flattened cushion. From a hygenic perspective, mesh chairs are inherently cleaner and will possess less smell and bacterial colonies, and won't induce topic skin issues such as miliaria that may occur through long term sitting, low breathability clothing and overactive sweat glands or individuals who run hotter than others, so to speak. Though I've heard of this happening to people who carry excess weight. Though I'd argue there are many options in the luxury office chair category that are the same as Herman Miller's products or better, mesh or otherwise.

My chair at home is a very plush executives chair that uses real leather. The couch in my home office is also plush. It's very comforting to sit back and be lulled to sleep by something so comfortable.

Personally, I don't much care for mesh, and find it uncomfortable.

A kittle under three years ago, shortly after I had returned home from an extended period abroad, I had the German company Klöber make me an executive office chair (to order) in real leather; it is brilliant and what I use in my office when I am at home.

 

[TSE]

I have a Steelcase Leap V2 - and while it is cloth and looks 2000's corporate-y, there's no denying that working remotely for 8 - 10 hours a day I wouldn't have any other chair. It's just that dang comfortable and durable. I bought it on Craigslist from a bank closing down and they had a bunch of them. I've used Aerons - they are lovely as well. I've used many of Knoll's offerings. Even purchased one of those HAG "Ergo" chairs that were complete gimmicks.

There's a reason the Leap V2 and Aerons have largely been unchanged for over twenty years. I wouldn't take a risk with such a large purchase and go for the safe choice.

 

[patrick0brien]

Thought I'd leave this little Aeron feature reminder here...