The iPhone is obviously just the code name we're all used to.
If I was in the market for a new nano, I would be waiting until January.
If I bought one for xmas, and a nano-like iPhone came out, I would be frustrated. That's all I am saying...
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Holiday iPod Sales May Have Beaten Expectations
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The iPhone is obviously just the code name we're all used to.
If I was in the market for a new nano, I would be waiting until January.
If I bought one for xmas, and a nano-like iPhone came out, I would be frustrated. That's all I am saying...
It does not initially, the user has to "enable disk usage" to make the iPod appear as a removable Hard Disk that Windows recognizes. I don't understand why it's really an option because it doesn't take away functionality but...
It does not initially, the user has to "enable disk usage" to make the iPod appear as a removable Hard Disk that Windows recognizes. I don't understand why it's really an option because it doesn't take away functionality but...
It does, auto-disconnect of the iPod after syncing is disabled.
Err... An increase in sales does not always translate into an increase in profits.
If Apple sells a tune for $.99, but the music studio takes $.90 and the operating costs are $.10, then Apple is making a loss and any incease in sales will translate into a bigger loss.
As it is, Apple reputedly just sneaks over covering their costs, so an increse in sales will see a small increase in profits
This is complicated by the fact that the operating costs are not a liniear translation of volume, so fewer sales would doubtless mean a higher per-song operating cost (the lables are not going to swallow that part and will expect a fixed amount per song).
All of which is irrelevant as the story sounds like it is talking about the number of visitors to the site. This is a missleadng figure because...
1. It may be people visiting the site to download iTunes (which is no longer distributed with Nano and Suffles) - and all accounts are that the new Shuffle has been selling shead-loads (another victory for Apple design team there).
2. When you fire iTunes up for the first time I think it takes you to the music store - so much like Microsoft's home page being the most visited one on the net (cause it is the default in explorer) you are going to get a lot of hits by people who never actually wanted to go there in the first place.
Always remember there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. These are statistics. Wait for the next financial statment to really see how things are going.
Follow the money.
I think that would be an easy setting change on Apple's part though. I think they were right to drop the CD, but they could have at least included a copy of the software on the unit. Then the software can offer to make it a non-drive unit once the software is running. It might have saved them quite a bit in bandwidth costs and reduce the site hammering doing it this way.
I'll buy an ifone if it's good enough. Apple cannot expect to aim the iPhone at the portable players market, its aimed at the Music phone market. Which to me are two different markets.
Some folks just prefer to listen to music from their phones i guess.
That's true. It's a statistic but a completely useless one at that and it has strong potential for misleading interpretations.
BTW: the owner's cut on a music track is reputed to be around $0.60 each, not $0.90. A cut higher than 0.70 would almost mean certain loss. The minimum credit card transaction fee is often around $0.25.
Since Apple is a SERVER company, why not add a bunch of servers just before known big sales events like Christmas and MWSF?
Or is this really a situation where all of the pipes were full?
Why not sub-out iTunes downloads (and software updates) (no insurmountable security concerns) to outside vendors during rush times?
Rocketman
Or is this really a situation where all of the pipes were full?
Why not sub-out iTunes downloads (and software updates) (no insurmountable security concerns) to outside vendors during rush times?
Rocketman
It's probably not a server problem. I think it is more likely a bandwidth problem, and Apple is not an ISP.
Apple uses Akamai for that, almost all the time. If you block Akamai, you almost can't even use Apple's sites at all.
They did buy the $50m Worldcom telecom center and that was the world record bandwidth location in the world when it was built. It apears Apple is either not using it at all, or to any significant degree yet. Probably waiting for ApplePhone and TrueVideoiPod.
Video downloads are really going to clog the pipe.
Rocketman
Okay, okay, I'll be the first to say...
What about the Zune? Isn't it killing the iPod?
Maybe because of the Zune, the iPod was not expected to do well at all, and it did anyways, which surprised most people...
(I earlier flushed some stuff down the toilet that was the same color as one of the Zunes...)
What about the Zune? Isn't it killing the iPod?
Maybe because of the Zune, the iPod was not expected to do well at all, and it did anyways, which surprised most people...
(I earlier flushed some stuff down the toilet that was the same color as one of the Zunes...)
I didn't buy any iPods for Christmas but I bought over $200 of itunes music coupons and album gifts. The slowdown on the 25th was incredible. All downloading nicely now.
I think Apple had great holiday sales. My hardware purchases are still waiting for iTV and whatever may be associated with it as well as the phone.
I think Apple had great holiday sales. My hardware purchases are still waiting for iTV and whatever may be associated with it as well as the phone.
No, it recognizes it but it doesn't appear as a lettered drive as is the case with the partions of Hard Drives or other removable drives. To use it as a Hard Drive you have to enable disk usage (which is not default).
Whatever the true reason(s) for the increased hits, one thing is certain: Apple is selling shed-loads of iPods.
Anecdotal evidence, but somebody I know bought an iPod nano for both his daughters, a third for his wife and a fourth for his sister-in-law. Each one of the four nanos in a different colour, of course.
If only my Christmas shopping were that easy?!
Anecdotal evidence, but somebody I know bought an iPod nano for both his daughters, a third for his wife and a fourth for his sister-in-law. Each one of the four nanos in a different colour, of course.
If only my Christmas shopping were that easy?!
Don't forget the gift cards for the itunes music store. I understand about a zillion of them were sold this year.
The Zune: It will be interesting to see how that progresses. One thing is certain: M$ won't give up on it easily.
The Zune: It will be interesting to see how that progresses. One thing is certain: M$ won't give up on it easily.
Akamai is used for, essentially, 'load balancing' popular sites - many companies use it. However for services such as the iTunes Store, I doubt Akamai is used, because of the need for encryption and more control over where content and the suchlike ends up - movie studios and music labels probably demand that their products are kept fresh and close to the chest. Which is probably why they bought the Worldcom centre.
This points out the limits of the internet itself. Apple has tested it in 2006. We need Internet 2.0 (Fiber).
Verizon has FiOS. Nortel has massive dark fiber. My brother installed it.
The capacity for future WiMax and Satellite and fiber in the ground is astounding.
The so-called internet bubble was not a bubble at all. It was a fortaste (religious reference) of internet to come. It would be here NOW if not for the Clinton/Greenspan intentional crash of 1999 on the pretense of an "internet bubble". (crashed the whole stock market, liquidating real people's retirement funds widely).
I claim to be an expert on this topic BTW.
Ask me to do TV segments on it. . . . .
Rocketman
What planet you on? The Zune was never predicted to be a threat to the iPod, at least not anytime soon. Also Zune is WAY behind the iPod in terms of unit volume and farther behind in terms of revenue.
iPod Phone
If Apple does release an iPod phone, I predict that the company will name it ... iPod phone. Think about the names of its previous product extensions -- iPod mini, iPod nano, iPod shuffle. Apple is pretty consistent when naming its products. You heard it here first.
If Apple does release an iPod phone, I predict that the company will name it ... iPod phone. Think about the names of its previous product extensions -- iPod mini, iPod nano, iPod shuffle. Apple is pretty consistent when naming its products. You heard it here first.
I got my husband the 30 gb ipod. The funny thing is is that he was saving up to get me one. lol
Now he doesn't have to. I told him to get a good bose speaker system for it. Maybe he can find one from rockford.
Now he doesn't have to. I told him to get a good bose speaker system for it. Maybe he can find one from rockford.
Geez, I thought it was all those ipods I saw them selling at Costco next to those $50 itunes cards for $44.99.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11190349&search=itunes&Sp=S&Mo=0&cm_re=1-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=itunes&Ntt=itunes&No=0&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11190349&search=itunes&Sp=S&Mo=0&cm_re=1-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=itunes&Ntt=itunes&No=0&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1
Ladies and Gentlemen,
"the market share of visits to the iTunes website increased by 1,222 percent in the same period, and outnumbered visits to Zune.net by 30 to 1."
413% was impressive, I agree, but 1222% is magfnificent.
Rocketman
"the market share of visits to the iTunes website increased by 1,222 percent in the same period, and outnumbered visits to Zune.net by 30 to 1."
413% was impressive, I agree, but 1222% is magfnificent.
Rocketman
I don't know how they do it now, but in the past, tracks were sent to the iTunes software unencrypted because of the caching service if I recall the report correctly. This is how one of the hacks worked to buy unencrypted tracks, it intercepted the data stream and saved the file. That has been changed though. It can concievably be encrypted on the cache servers and then re-encrypted by the local program. If it's cracked, replace the files with new encryption.