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Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by realityisterror, Aug 31, 2003.

  1. realityisterror macrumors 65816

    realityisterror

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    As you may know by now, I plan on purchasing a eMac or iBook, both $999 versions, in October when Panther is pre-installed. My question to you all is:

    What is some must have software for either computer, preferably free?

    Please add to my list:

    DeLocalizer
    Cocktail
    MacJanitor


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  2. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    TransparentDock - To get rid of that nasty outline from around your dock, looks much better IMO.
     
  3. Marble macrumors 6502a

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    I would recommend getting System Optimizer X 4.0.6 instead of MacJanitor. It does everything Janitor does and more.
     
  4. realityisterror thread starter macrumors 65816

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    does anyone know of a free/cheap (under $15) disk defragmenter?
    i think it's stupid of apple not to include one with the os...


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  5. Horrortaxi macrumors 68020

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    Stupid? It should tell you something when they include a lot of things you use a lot, and even a lot of things you'll rarely or never have to use and they don't include a degrag program.
     
  6. Marble macrumors 6502a

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    You won't need a disk defragmentor. I've never used one before, and I've used Macs for my entire life. Seriously, stupidity doesn't enter into the equation.
     
  7. The Reaper macrumors member

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    what Horrortaxi means is that macs don't need defragmentation. they just don't. windows does. after a period of time with windows, the HD becomes increasingly fragmented and the system becomes sluggish. eventually, after repeated defrags, windows needs to be installed.

    PCs have these problem. Macs don't. it's that simple.
     
  8. Marble macrumors 6502a

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    If you're worried about your computer getting a little long in the tooth after a while, especially if you're considering a laptop, make sure you use System Optimizer to run the usual assortment of built-in system maintenance.
     
  9. WinterMute Moderator emeritus

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    It's not free, but DiskWarrior 3 is an absolute must IMO, it's saved my arse on several occasions under sytem 9, and is a real safety net for OSX.

    It rebuilds your file structure and can replace destroyed file systems from damaged discs.
     
  10. realityisterror thread starter macrumors 65816

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    if you say so, i shall listen....


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  11. ryme4reson macrumors 6502

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    These are the utilities I use everyday.

    homepage.mac.com/jamesk777

    then click on software. Also, max menus by unsanity software is really cool.
     
  12. alset macrumors 65816

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    Untrue. I will concede that we seem to have less need for defrag utilities, but just because we use Macs doesn't mean our hard drives work any differently than every other drive on the planet.

    When you delete files the OS overwrites them. If there is not enough of a gap in a sector for writing, the data will be written to two or more parts of the disk.

    Too many users think their machines are designed by god and that they don't obey the laws of electronics. Just because we have the baddest machines on the planet doesn't make us superior. OK, well, maybe a little bit. 8)

    Dan
     
  13. The Reaper macrumors member

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    while some mac HDs may need cron script cleanups and cache cleaning etc (System Optimizer or Mac Janitor stuff), the speed boosts are marginal. in other words, they aren't really needed. as for defragmentation, i spent quite a while looking for a good defragmentor for my G4 Cube running OS X, until i realized that my performance had not decreased during my ownership of the machine. ie it had not become sluggish. after other people noticed the same thing, i stopped my search.

    Windows screws up the HD by fragmenting over time, and while defragmenting may solve this in the short term, in the long term (6 months etc), windows becomes increasingly sluggish, despite repeated defrags. many of my friends here in my dorm (with windows XP) think they need a new computer because the speed of their machines has halved after a few months, despite repeated defragmenting. i told them to format and reinstall windows. it worked. machines were just like new.

    the additional problems are that windows does not let you defragment some parts of the system, and also that windows generates lots of redundant Cache and Log files which take up lots of HD space and fragment the drive further. not to mention the files which mysteriously move around the computer.

    while it makes sense that no 6 month old mac OS X install will ever be as fast as a new one, the difference in speed is extremely small. the time spent defragmenting, or backing up, reformatting and reinstalling, will probably be more than the time you save.

    corrct me if i am wrong, but when ever i install a piece of system software on OS X, the last stage is called Optimization, and takes some time. it is my belief that apple is defragmenting the system software so that it is all in one chunk, to maintain system performance.
     
  14. reflex macrumors 6502a

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    I wonder if maybe System Optimizer includes a defragger.
     
  15. Rezet macrumors 6502a

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    I think Norton Internet Security 3.0 is a cool thing... Provides total protection from viruses, hackers, popups, webads and optimizes the system... It's not free (too good)... but for around 80 bucks I found it to be a perfect mac and pc protector... Sure as hell beats McAfees's slow crap... and their .Mac version...
     

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