Hotmail Virus

Discussion in 'Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther) Discussion' started by wowser, May 2, 2004.

  1. wowser macrumors 6502a

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    I recieved this email with the following message body:

    Code:
    A virus was found in a message sent by this
    account.
    
    --- Scan information follows ---
    
    Result: Virus Detected
    Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm
    File Attachment: document43.zip
    Attachment Status: infected
    
    Result: Virus Detected
    Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm
    File Attachment: document43.zip/document.txt***************************************************************** 
    .exe
    Attachment Status: infected
    
    --- Original message information follows ---
    
    From: [my email address]@hotmail.com
    To: [email]info@lwe.liebherr.com[/email]
    Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 11:21:50 -0700
    Subject: Re: Its me
    Is this a virus in my Hotmail account; a hoax or something else? Surely not a virus on my Mac?

    Thanks
    Ed
     
  2. Mav451 macrumors 68000

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    I don't think so. I get these kind of emails all the time in Thunderbird (no way I touch Outlook anytime soon).

    I have NEVER sent an email with an attachment, so it goes without saying its probably just some virus running amok on the Hotmail/local server. I know @ UMD, too many students don't watch what attachments they get and click them (thus spreading the virus).

    Even if it says you sent it, its B.S.
     
  3. rainman::|:| macrumors 603

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    a virus can't actually *do* things in your hotmail account... it could only sit dormant, waiting for you to download to your computer. And if that's an OS X computer, nothing would happen. BUT in this case, you don't even have a virus, someone loosely connected to you does, the virus found your email address on their computer and sent out copies of itself with your name as the return address. so, they bounce back to you.

    There are dozens of similar threads already. Search for "virus".

    paul
     
  4. Benjamin macrumors 6502a

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    well.. first hotmail is a virus itself.. and what you have is just a propagation of some virus that resends itselft, which needs windows or hotmail to run. fake headers etc.
     
  5. wowser thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    phew! Thatnks guys - sounds like my Mac is safe :)
     
  6. Duff-Man macrumors 68030

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    Duff-Man says....go over to Symantec or McAfee and read up on the netsky virus and you'll see exactly what has just happened....oh yeah!
     
  7. virividox macrumors 601

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    although macs arent affected we should still try to delete emails with viruses because if they are accidentaly forwarded we could infect people using windoze
     
  8. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Most likely a computer *at Hotmail* was infected, i.e. a mail server, and it was sending out virii under people's names in the server's mail directory. This happened to me at work too -- I got mails like this when I don't send infected attachments and to people who aren't even in my address book. I think this particular virus infects the mail server, grabs random names out of the incoming and outgoing mail, and random names from the directory of users of that server and sends out the virii itself under their names.
     
  9. Benjamin macrumors 6502a

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    and this is a bad thing?
     
  10. IrishGold macrumors member

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    Yes:

    More infected windows machines = more sent out emails which then = more problems with networks, spam, ect.
     
  11. Benjamin macrumors 6502a

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    wow way to stat the obvious, oh well. poor attempt on my part to use humor.
     
  12. IrishGold macrumors member

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    Yes, poor attempt. Add a smilie or something next time.
     
  13. wowser thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    wow - that's quite shoddy if Hotmail servers have a virus. i deleted the email, and the info supplied at Symantic suggested that it was a virus that affected smtp servers.
     
  14. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Hotmail's servers run FreeBSD. After buying Hotmail, Microsoft spent years trying to convert the service from FreeBSD to Microsoft-based servers. IIRC, it gave up in frustration. These viruses don't work by infecting mail servers, but they may spoof them.
     
  15. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Oh, yeah, I do remember reading the conspiracies about MS using open source software a couple of months ago. Sorry! :(
     
  16. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    These are not rumors. Nor are they conspiracies. Hotmail existed long before M$ bought it. Hotmail was built on FreeBSD.
     
  17. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    No, no, sorry again (and then I'll stop apologizing). The conspiracies were not *that* MS was using FreeBSD but all kinds of things surrounding how MS was trying to hide that it ran better than their own servers, etc. The explanation (that they use it b/c they acquired a working system from Hotmail) is much less conspiratorial. :)
     
  18. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    It is not just open source. Microsoft only forces its customers to use its products. Internally, it uses the best products available, which may be Macintoshes or any variety of UNIXen. One of the more humorous instances happened a few years ago when it was revealed that an erroneous URL such as http://www.microsoft.com/huh? would result in a generic Apache error message.
    Netcraft queries revealed a collection of UNIX servers from DEC and other vendors. Within a week, the error messages changed and the UNIX servers no longer showed up in Netcraft. Clearly, it cannot port a web presence as large as Microsoft's from UNIX to Windows in a week. Afterall, it could not port Hotmail to Windows after years. I suspect that there remains a lot of UNIX behind that curtain.
     

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