How does this look?

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  1. ghall macrumors 68040

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    I'm doing some web design for a small communications company in my area, and I was wondering what people thought of the main banner I created for the site.

    If anyone is curious: The landscape was rendered twice in Carrara 5, once in photorealism mode, and another in wireframe, and the images were blended together in PhotoShop.
     

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  2. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    I don't think there's enough of the wireframe to make it look like it should be there. As it is now, it kind of just looks like there are artifacts in the image. I think you need to be a little more deliberate with your wireframe if you want it to look like you meant for it to be there.
     
  3. ghall thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I tried changing it, but I don't want it to be "in your face". I like the subtlety, but your right, it definitaly needs more. It's supposed to look natural and smooth. That's the best I could get it. Any tips on what I could do to draw out the wireframe a little more.
     
  4. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    ditto, it just looks like it didn't render fully where as I think your going for more of a transition look, this looks un-finished or broken.
     
  5. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    Maybe the foreground is wireframe while the background is rendered? Or vice versa? I think that the color you've chosen (or the program has chosen) to fill in the wireframe makes it look more like a mistake instead of intentional. I'd like to see the wireframe without a background, like it's really just "wires."

    On other notes, bevel & emboss and drop shadows are overused. Stay away from them, especially used together.

    Remember, less is more.
     
  6. ghall thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Any suggestions as to how I should implement this? I've tried some things, and this is the bext I could come up with:
     

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  7. ghall thread starter macrumors 68040

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    That will be very easy to fix.
     
  8. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    I like that more than the first one...but I'm not sure it's there, yet.
     
  9. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    What if you got rid of the landscape alltogether (scary, I know), but did the same thing with the name of the business. Started out on the left with a wireframe N and worked your way to the right to a fully rendered S. Maybe that would work a little better.

    As for the rest of the "banner" part...maybe the idea above placed over a grayscale landscape or something? I'm thinking as I'm typing, so the thoughts aren't fully realized yet.
     
  10. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Agree with all that's been said about the wireframe and artifacts but I also feel the drop-shadow beneath the type is a bit heavy. It doesn't even necessarily have to be a neutral black either.
     
  11. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    Unfortunatly I haven't touched a 3D application in years but maybe try a different colour for the wire frame. I think part of the problem is the green looks almost like grass and blends into the mountain. Try a bright/navyish blue perhaps. You may have to tweak the colour in photoshop for that. Also the density of the wireframes on the mountain further back gives the look of it being solid.

    So I'm not sure if you can render it with a less dense wireframe maybe? Sorry, as I said, I haven't touched a 3D app in a while.
     
  12. ghall thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Here's a slightly different approach that I came up with. I decided to blend the wireframe with the landscape.
     

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  13. mulletman13 macrumors 6502a

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    Only thing I'd say is perhaps change the color of the text, looks a little out of place.
     
  14. Eric5h5 macrumors 68020

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    My advice, for whatever it's worth: To begin with, the image is just too dark. Also the wireframe isn't wireframey enough...is there a way to generate a version with fewer polygons? It's more or less noticeable that it's a wireframe at the bottom of the image, but then suddenly it gets mooshed into a blob of green and totally loses the effect. More contrast would also help. Also a less uggy green? As for the font, it's ever so slightly difficult to read, at least the "network" part. I'd use a thicker font, and make the drop shadow much less prominent. In fact, I'd try ditching it altogether (even though I do like my drop shadows!) and try white text with a black outline. I think the second version is closest to what you're trying to achieve, though my advice also applies to that one, plus I'd make the fade-over between wireframe and non-wireframe more gradual.

    Now it might sound like I've totally trashed it, but I do like the idea...I suppose it's not the most original in the world, but nine years of print design I wanted to do something like that, and never quite got the opportunity where it would have been appropriate.

    Edit: Oh, I forgot: since the name is "Natural Networks," maybe the image should follow the name, and go from natural on the left to networky on the right?

    --Eric
     
  15. p0intblank macrumors 68030

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    I have to agree. Perhaps give it a darker green so it blends in more.
     
  16. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    hmm, is it possible for you to post your source images? Eg: the rendered image and the wireframe so we can play with it ourself's in PS?
     
  17. ghall thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Brilliant!
     
  18. ghall thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Sure thing. Here they are.

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  19. mulletman13 macrumors 6502a

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    Perhaps in the wireframe mode you should change the export colors to black background with bright green wires.... although thats "matrixy" thats the colors people usually associate with wireframes and such, plus it'd be a clear distinction.

    Use color replace for those, and then do a gradient fade through the background image.

    I'd whip something up now but alas, CS2 isn't installed on my MacBook =(
     
  20. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040

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    meh here's what I came up with after 5-10 min in PS. Truthfully after seeing the fully rendered picture I'd ditch the wireframe all together. I think it takes away more than it adds. but that's just my opinion.
     

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  21. MattyMac macrumors 68000

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    I still like the first one best...just giving an opinon.
     
  22. kingslod macrumors member

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    Reverse out the type (white) in lower left and make bolder, maybe san-serif. It will be a lot stronger and feel more balanced.

    Cheers...
     
  23. Eric5h5 macrumors 68020

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    Well, dunno about that, but here's my attempt:
     

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  24. Sijmen macrumors 6502a

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    Much, much better. I like this one most, it's IMHO the only one that looks right.
     
  25. Lau Guest

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    I had a quick play - by making the wireframe higher contrast and green, and then using it as a second layer and using the "Screen" option. Then I used the Quick Mask and a gradient to fade out the wireframe layer, and adjusted the brightness on both to make it the type stand out. I wonder if a more 'computery' typeface might be appropriate as well?

    I'm amazed at how realistic the mountains look, at first I thought it was a photo that you had somehow managed to map!

    naturalnetworks2.jpg
     

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