How fast is 1.5Mbs High speed internet?

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    Hey everyone, I currently have quest high speed internet here in Utah. I have the 1.5Mbps speed. Using torrents ect.. my maximum download speed is always right under 160 Kbps. I thought that 1.5Mbs internet meant i would be getting 1.5Mbps download speeds! Am I wrong? Thanks!
     
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    Bit torrent speeds will not use your full bandwidth and are based on several factors like how the files are seeded amongst other factors.
     
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    No... the max speed you will get depending on the type of connection is about half that. Standard speeds are quite a bit lower. The number they give you is a theoretical limit.
     
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    That is probably actually 160 kilobytes/sec, not 160 kilobits/sec. 160*8=1280 kilobits/sec=1.28 Mbps, which is not too far from 1.5 Mbps. You will never see 1.5 Mbps transfer speeds for a number of reasons.
     
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    I have 2Mb/s internet speed and my max download speed is 230Kb/s. You will never get 1.5Mb/s because of many reasons
     
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    GimmeSlack12

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    1.5 Mb/s is really not that fast as a maximum (to answer your question). My torrents sometimes see 2 Mb/s download speeds although I really do not know what my internet package maximum is. Though I am not paying for anything special.
     
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    Hellhammer

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    I think you have 20Mb/s or 25Mb/s. Real download speed is about one tenth of the "real" speed.

    For everyone: Run SpeedTest to test your internet's real speed. I'm paying for 2Mb and got 1.9Mb/s
     
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    With ADSL, you seldom get the connection speed that is advertised.

    Speed tests are fun, but IMHO are very inaccurate.

    Suggest DL'ing a large file, such as Mac OS 9.2 update (82MB) or larger and then time how long it takes to determine your actual DL speed.
     
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    yg17

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    ^^^ The only correct answer in this thread.

    The fact he's seeing 160 KB/s has nothing to do with the fact that BitTorrent is slower or theoretical limits or anything. He's seeing 160 KB/s because browsers and BitTorrent clients show speeds in bytes per second and ISPs advertise speeds in bits per second. And as he just pointed out, his speeds translate to 1.28 Mbps which is close enough
     
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    While this may be true in his case, most of the time, ADSL actual speed is much lower than advertised speed.
     
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    Thanks everyone for your great help. I was unaware of the difference in kbits and kbytes. I assumed they were the same thing. It all makes sense now. Thanks!
     
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    Many factors involved there...line quality, distance from the phone company switching station. DSL does however have the advantage that whatever bandwidth you are in fact getting is all yours, as opposed to cable which is often a single high speed connecting (ie 10mbit) shared through a neighborhood, making your connection more variable.
     
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    True.

    Yep.

    Not sure about other areas, but in Japan, VDSL is becoming popular for aparment dwellers. They run fiber connections to the apartment building. I believe there must be 10 units for NTT to do this, but not sure. Anyhow, the individuals who join share that fiber connection via ADSL within the apartment building.

    Another method, similar to ADSL, but rather LAN connections in each apartment. Bandwidth is higher, but you are all on the same network in this case which can have it's issues.

    Personally prefer the VDSL concept.

    Cable definitely has it's sharing issues. A friend of mine lived in a neighborhood where there were many teenagers. You could tell when school was out, dinner time, and bedtime due to the bandwidth changes.

    Plus with a cable connection, you are sharing the connection if you will such that the starting person in the loop can see the others traffic.

    I much prefer ADSL or FTTH as they are dedicated connections to your home.

    Just as a point of clarification, usually, they are written like this:

    Megabits per second --> Mbps

    Megabytes per second --> MBps

    Kilobits per second --> Kbps

    Kilobytes per second --> KBps
     
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    1.5 Megabits =/= 1.5 MegaBytes

    1 byte = 8 bits...

    So 1.5Mb/s is actually 187KB/s. So you have what you pay for.
     
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    Here's what I'm getting with my EarthLink ADSL service hosted by AT&T:

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    Based what what I'm seeing downloading full radio shows from the ESPN Radio Insider web page, I'm getting about 156 kilobytes per second maximum download speeds.
     
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    This is just what I was looking for, thanks. Living in Chicago we have been forced to use Comcast for any sort of broadband (its like a ******* monopoly down here), and after several complaints that their service doesn't even meet their own spec they "upgraded" us to 6MB service.

    In my experience it runs about 768K 24 hours a day... for $70/month... which was hard to predict too becuase Comcast is evasive about what "regular" pricing is and whether there are cheaper options. I'm switching to DSL today.
     
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    That's what AT&T does for their U-Verse service. They run fiber to a node (called the VRAD) and then it's copper VDSL from the VRAD to the house. I have it at home and it works great, I get 12 mbps internet (which I realize is like dial up compared to speeds in Japan) and TV service.
     
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    LOL. People who don't know what they're talking about should probably not post tech advice. Megabits=/=megabytes.
     
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    I have the aliant high speed internet and it is supposto be 1.5 mbs I think and I only get 160k and somtimes higher but like nothing above 200k I think that it might be the router maybe or the way the internet settings are layed out about sharing the bandwith because I have alot of PC in my house that use the internet but when their all off I still get the stupid low bandwith my friend just down the road gets easily 1mbs downloads and on the same stuff :mad::mad: and he has rogers but I have to ask his father what type of internet they pay for because im not guna pay for fibop to get that kind of download speads:eek::confused:
     
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    We just got 40mbps today and some services top at lower speeds. My webhosts (I never knew this) limit download speeds to 2mbps, BT speeds are limited by other people so they vary. Steam maxed out at 1.5mbps for some reason.
     
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    yg17

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    If you had took the time to read the thread, you would see and understand the difference between bits and bytes and why your speeds of 160k are likely 100% completely normal.
     
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    It's 3x faster than what I get. 512kbps. And I can sometimes pull 63KBps on downloads so your numbers seem about right to me
     
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    Any news on if Comcast is still underhandedly throttling connections? Also, I'll be switching to AT&T U-Verse when I move for a couple reasons (mainly because I want a specific channel not available thru cable). Does AT&T have any throttling issues?
     
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    is this speed test good?

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