How maxed out can the Cube be?

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by JupiterZen, Jan 16, 2003.

  1. macrumors regular

    #1
    Just wondering. What is the most maxed out Cube out there?

    I was just thinking what a cool machine it would be with:

    - 1.5GB of RAM
    - 200GB Western Digital 7200rpm harddisk
    - Geforce4 something
    - Powerlogix dual 1Ghz upgradecard
    - Superdrive

    But I fear it's mostly dreaming. Because for one, you would have to murder a powerbook with superdrive to get one that fits (or isn't it a notebook drive in there? Sorry to say never seen a Cube in person). Second Powerlogix says that you can only put the dual 800 in the Cube. And third, I have no idea if you could fit any Geforce4 in there.

    So tell me, how cool can it get for real.

    :cool:
     
  2. macrumors 65816

    kiwi_the_iwik

    #2
    OK - the most maxed-out a Cube could theoretically be is:

    * 1.5Gb Ram
    * 23" LCD Monitor
    * Powerlogix Dual-1.25Gb Processors (due out anytime soon) with 2Mb L3 Cache
    * 250Gb Internal ATA Drive
    * Slot-Loading SuperDrive (as seen in the new TiBooks)
    * GeForce3 or ATI Radeon 7500 (fanless) Graphics card

    What a kick-butt machine THAT'LL be...

    Currently, Powerlogix have OK'd the Dual-Gig Processor upgrades. However, there is going to be a new chip design coming out in the next few months that has a lower power requirement, and give speeds in excess of 1.5Gb per chip...

    Bear in mind, that for most upgrades it is recommended that a small fan be installed inside the Cube - Apple have been kind enough to supply a nice little area at the base of the inside chassis for such a unit - including a 12V supply. Perhaps it was to plan ahead for such contingencies as further upgradability to the Cube range.

    How sad it didn't continue...

    Now, if only the graphics card manufacturers were to make half-height (7") cards, then the Cube would be well and truly back in business...

    :cool:
     
  3. macrumors member

    #3
    But, of course, you're still going to be limited by the 100MHz bus. However, most Cubes seem to do okay with a bus overclock to 133MHz, so things might not be as bas as it seems.

    I've spent many an hour staring at my cube and pondering whether to upgrade it to a single gigger, ati 7500 and overclock the bus. But, by the time everything is said and done, it'll cost close to what a new, bottom of the line, PM would cost (minus the ~$1500 i can get for the cube) and still be slower. But, on the other hand, if I upgraded I would still own a cube ;) (albeit a noisy one)

    Oh well, at least my finances force this to be a decision I don't have to make anytime soon.
     
  4. macrumors 68030

    cr2sh

    #4
    If anyone hasinformation on overclocking the system bus to 133, PLEASE POST IT. I'd do this weekend!

    Second, I would prefer to use an external DVD-R (MicroCenter this week has a 4X DVD-R/W for $199!) via firewire. I've pulled my internal CD/DVD drive from my Cube and replaced it with a second Hardrive. Using this you could get both a superdrive and 500gigs of space. the dual 1GHz from powerlogix is supposedly more reliable than the dual 800 from everything I've read. (xlr8yourmac)

    So..
    dual 1Ghz Powerlogix
    500Gigs (dual harddrives internally)
    External Superdrive
    1.5gigs of ram

    Again, someone please post a link on how to overclock system bus! :)
     
  5. macrumors member

    #5
    I do believe that the instructions for the sawtooth g4 work on the cube. They're at http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4ZONE/sawtooth/SawtoothCPUdesign.html

    At least its heavily hinted at in the document where they discuss the timebase problem, and how the cube doesn't have it...

    If not, the kind folks in the forums there should be able to direct you in the correct way. The main trick is to down clock your CPU before the bus, otherwise your cube won't even start up as the CPU will be trying to run at 600Mhz.

    People have reported limited success for the 450s at 466 and virtually no success at 533 (to the point where, if you have a 500, you're better off going to 466).

    If you have any success, post back and let us know.
     
  6. macrumors regular

    #6
    I must say it sound very promising ;) I have a dual 800 Quicksilver now, but would really like to get rid of the noise in my audio studio. So I've been looking at the new Powerbook 17", but it's way to expensive for me :(.

    But getting a secondhand Cube and patching it up like this seems a good alternative because I already have the RAM, A 17" LCD, 80GB harddrive and a Geforce3.

    Do you know if the Geforce3 that Apple shipped with the Quicksilvers fits inside the Cube?

    :cool:
     
  7. macrumors 68030

    cr2sh

    #7
    I'm getting ready to ordering one of the 17" powerbooks at the end of the month. At that point I plan on getting rid of my 450cube, and I'd be willing to let it go pretty cheap. Let me know if you're interested, eh?
     
  8. macrumors regular

    #8
    I would be quite interested ;) but I think we have one little problem. Because I happen to live in Europe.

    So I have no idea if it would be worth it with shippingcosts and moneytransfercosts getting it all around the globe.
     
  9. macrumors 68030

    cr2sh

    #9
    In that case, anyone else interested the offer stands.

    Back to the subject at hand though....
     
  10. macrumors 65816

    kiwi_the_iwik

    #10
    Yes - it's the best nVidia card that fits in the Cube - otherwise, you could go for a Radeon 7500 (which has the added benefit of not having a fan, unlike the GeForce3). I've always got an eye open on eBay - there's a guy in the States who is always selling those cards for around $250-300. Otherwise, try going to www.cube-zone.com or www.cubeowner.com for links to second-hand dealers who stock them.

    Good luck!

    :)
     
  11. macrumors regular

    #11
    Thanx for the info. The Radeon is a good idea, because it's actually the fan of the Geforce3 that a am hoping to escape.

    The only problem is I would really like a card with ADC for my 17" LCD. So I'll have to check if the Radeon comes with that.

    /me is om his way exploring Cube ownership ;)
     
  12. macrumors 65816

    ibookin'

    #12
    I might be interested. I was thinking of upgrading a Cube to Dual 1Ghz or so, but I don't have one. How much would you let it go for?
     
  13. macrumors 65816

    kiwi_the_iwik

    #13
    There are some Radeon 7500's available with ADC connectors. The cards that the guy on eBay sells are all fitted with ADC. So - that'd be perfect for you. He currently has a GeForce3 for sale on eBay now -

    (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2302082538&category=4601)

    - but it might pay to email him as to the availability of any more Radeon 7500's.

    Let me know how you get on...

    :)
     
  14. macrumors 6502a

    IndyGopher

    #14
    Am I missing something? How do you folks get drives bigger than 128gig to be recognized in the cube?
     
  15. macrumors 65816

    kiwi_the_iwik

    #15
    Ummmm - yeah - well. Didn't know there was a problem...

    Other Cube Forum sites haven't pointed out any problems regarding the installation of big hard drives. What have you heard?
     
  16. macrumors 604

    MacBandit

    #16
    The problem is with ATA100 and below. Up until recently with the release of the DDR powermacs the ATA100, ATA66, ATA33 etc. have a hardware limitation of I believe 136GB. With the release of the DDR powermacs Apple has a new ATA100 card with a new architecture that allows nearly unlimited size.
     
  17. macrumors regular

    #17
    :( Damn. That sucks at least a little. I have 80GB now so it's not an immediate problem unless I run out of space and 120GB doesn't cut it.

    Well, first I have to find a Cube. Here in Europe they go for about 1000 euro's secondhand. How does that compare to prices in the US?

    <edit>
    Just looked around ebay and in the US they come for 1000 dollars WITH monitor even 15" TFT. Damn, why are they so expensive here :(
    </edit>
     
  18. macrumors 68020

    Moxiemike

    #18
    let me know how much you want for it.

    m
     
  19. macrumors 6502a

    #19
    check out xlr8yourmac.com they have info on a radeon 9000 in a cube
     
  20. macrumors 603

    janey

    #20
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    Very interested. How much? I'd love to get a Cube (okay so my boyfriend wants one too)!
     
  21. macrumors 68030

    cr2sh

    #21
    I'm not sure how much I'd ask for it. I've been using it for the last 6months with dual harddrives and the case apart, so I'd have to reassemble it. I've done some customization on the case (had it powdercoated black) amongst other things and I'd prolly toss in the 15" apple lcd too. I was thinking $600 for both, maybe cheaper... When I do decide to sell it I'll post it in the forsale section but you guys get the first crack at (if you're even still interested.) What date are the 17" available?

    the specs:
    450 g4 / 1gig ram (1x512, 2x256) / 40gig 7200 maxtor / DVD
    15" studio display (Digital)
     
  22. macrumors 603

    janey

    #22
    $600 for the modded g4 cube and a 15" studio display? sounds great...but hmmm...how much would shipping it to london cost? :D
     
  23. macrumors G4

    #23

    Not if I get it first.[​IMG]


    Oh, and I just recounted and I can pay the full $600.
     
  24. macrumors 68030

    cr2sh

    #24
    Just got back from London, I had so much fun. I miss it so... :(
     
  25. macrumors 603

    janey

    #25
    Right now I'm not in the States...

    You probably could mail it to my house in Cupertino.

    Cash, check or plastic? Or do you prefer paypal?

    I want the cube!!!!
     

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