How to disable app syncing without removing all apps and their data from iOS device?

Discussion in 'iOS 5 and earlier' started by ozthegweat, Oct 26, 2011.

  1. macrumors regular

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    What always bugged me, before iOS 5, was that I had to sync all those apps installed on my iPhone and iPad to my Mac, for various reasons: it takes away space (around 20GB, which is a lot on a small MacBook Air SSD), everytime an app gets updated, it had to be transferred again, and you can't use those apps on the Mac anyway. But I did it, so I had a backup of the app data.

    Now with iOS 5 and backup to iCloud, all app data is being saved to iCloud. There's no need to keep syncing apps to my Mac.

    So I tried disabling app syncing in iTunes, but there's no option to stop syncing but leave all the apps installed on the iOS device. It's either keep syncing, or stop syncing and lose all your apps, and, more importantly, all app data. If it was only the apps themselves, I could download them again, but the deletion of app data is the real killer.

    Is there a way to do that? Would it work if I stopped app syncing and then restored the iOS device from an iCloud backup? Would I get to keep the app data?
     
  2. macrumors newbie

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    Awesome question, i'd really like to know why the hell i need to keep ~10gb of apps in my iTunes, now that apps are being downloaded from iCloud after restore. PC free, riiiiiiight....
     
  3. macrumors regular

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    You can delete the apps from the computer (the actual .app files) but keep them in iTunes and it will keep syncing app data just fine, as long as the app is still present on the phone. I'm doing this myself.

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    Or an alternative might be to backup your phone to iCloud, and then disable app sync in iTunes, thus deleting all data on the phone, and then restoring the phone from iCloud? I haven't tried this, but it could work. Or it just reenables the sync, i'm not sure... worth a try?
     
  4. macrumors newbie

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    this actually makes a lot of sense, anyone tried it?
     
  5. macrumors regular

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    - open iTunes and push the buttons "Ctrl" "+" ","
    Takes you to settings (preferences)

    - Click on Store and uncheck all check box

    Although I'm on Windows so... Find out how to do it on your Mac
    Hope that's what you're looking for! #
     
  6. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes, that's what I proposed in the last paragraph of the first post... haven't tried it yet, but I think I'll get to it this weekend...
     
  7. macrumors 65816

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    This is an interesting concept. Would you please post your results if you do it. I would try it myself but I'm going out-of-town for 2 weeks and won't be able to until I get back.

    Thanks
     
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    subscribing.

    also curious on results!
     
  9. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Sorry guys, didn't get to it yet, as my internet connection at home is not working right now. Should be fixed tomorrow however.

    But I'm afraid that the sync setting is saved on the device as well, which means an iOS device restored from iCloud would still have the sync options enabled. Well, we'll see...
     
  10. macrumors 6502

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    Uncheck the Sync Apps, OK the warning. Sync. IMMEDIATELY UNPLUG.

    Voila. Keep apps, No more syncing.
     
  11. macrumors newbie

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    haha, this worked, thanks! :)
     
  12. macrumors newbie

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    I clicked apply and immediately unplugged and 5 of my apps got deleted. I really wish apple would reevaluate that "feature."
     
  13. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Well, I just tried the iCloud restore thing. The iPad was restored from iCloud without problems, but when I connected it to iTunes, the Sync Apps option was already checked. Seems like this option is saved on the iPad...
     
  14. macrumors newbie

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    after first sync itunes forced me to transfer all my purchased apps from iphone back to itunes, even though "sync apps" box is still unchecked :(
     
  15. macrumors 6502a

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    Did you have wifi sync on or off?

    I'm going to def try this later. Sounds awesome!
     
  16. macrumors newbie

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    Do I have to understand that it doesn't work ?
     
  17. macrumors 68020

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    This is a problem that is driving me nuts because I use an Air and want to quit syncing to the computer and instead sync to iCloud. And not only does this affect Apps, it also does the same thing with Music Match:

    1) UNCHECKING APP SYNC ERASES ALL INSTALLED APPS, FOLDER STRUCTURES AND SAVE SETTINGS (games/settings/etc). Not to mention redownloading 15GB of Apps on each iPad and iPhone (we have 4 iOS devices).

    2) TURNING ON MUSIC MATCH ON iOS ERASES ALL LOCAL MUSIC AND PLAYLISTS. So just like with Apps, my meticulously organized music is wiped out and Im expected to redownload every song AND manually make new playlists on each device.

    Im surprised there isnt a solution for this yet because moving everything to the crowd does make sense but unlike other cloud services (contacts, bookmarks, calendars) there is no option to MERGE which means shutting off the local App or Music sync destroys everything.

    Hopefully someone has a solution that doesnt result in blaming the end user for being "lazy".
     
  18. macrumors newbie

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    No, it doesnt, iTunes is forcing me to download all apps back to iTunes.

    HOWEVER

    check out this post:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13757639&postcount=8

    i did what this guy said and...its working :) i tried it first with just one app and it worked as expected, so decided to delete all my iTunes apps and i can sync no problem!

    i dont know is that expected behaviour or just some sort of a bug, because clearly the message says that all iphone apps will be deleted, but they remain untouched...

    anyways, check it out, it worked great for me and now my HD is 10GB+ lighter :)
     
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    Followed the instructions exactly, didn't work at all. Wiped out all my apps. Restoring from iCloud now.
     
  20. macrumors newbie

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    hahaha!!you are F#$%ING GOD!!!!worked like a charm!!!
     
  21. macrumors newbie

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    sorry to hear that mate. did you test with deleting just one app? i did before i decided to remove all my apps
     
  22. macrumors newbie

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    Unfortunately this isn't working for me :(
     
  23. macrumors 6502

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    What happens?
     
  24. macrumors newbie

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    I can't ever get the right moment to unplug, I guess, so or the app stays synched or it gets deleted. I have the latest version of all software. Probably they fixed this glitch?
     
  25. macrumors 6502

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    I just tried this just now and it worked.

    Make sure you have Wi-Fi syncing disabled. The right moment to unplug is right when the iTunes screen says it's syncing.
     

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