HOW-TO INSTALL: How to install Ubuntu on your Mac

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  1. slooksterPSV macrumors 68030

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    Ubuntu is a build of Linux that is easier for users to grasp. I've found this version to be a lot better than SuSE 8.1. Ubuntu is GNOME based so if you like Gnome you like this version, but if you like KDE, then I suggest you download Kubuntu. You can download either of these, including a Live CD, from http://www.ubuntulinux.org or http://www.kubuntu.org for Gnome and KDE, respectively.

    STEP 1: Obtain the installation medium |
    You can download a Live CD to see what Ubuntu will be like or an install CD to install it. NOTE: Live CD's are a lot slower since they keep loading things off of the CD.
    After you've downloaded it. Burn the image onto a CD using your favorite app. I recommend Disk Utility or Roxio's Toast.

    STEP 2: Installing UBUNTU
    After you've burned it, keep the CD it and reboot and hold the C key down to boot from the CD. When it load, keep the defaults and hit enter. Choose your language, hit enter. It'll ask you how you want to partition your hard drive. If you know these settings set them. Otherwise just wipe out the entire hard drive and whatever's left you'll have for free space. The next thing it'll prompt you for a bit is your first user and your password. NOTE: The password does not show up, so don't freak out if you start typing characters and nothing appears. Just type in your password and hit enter, verify it, hit enter. The installation will continue installing stuff and finally reboot. When it reboots it'll setup everything. Don't hold down the C key to boot from the CD, just let the setting up continue.

    STEP 3: After setup
    When you get to the Window where you can type in your login stuff, go ahead and type it in and login. The first thing you want to do is setup you network settings. Click System go to Administration->Networking. Configure your eth0 device as you need. If you use DHCP, you don't need to do this. If you run under a proxy do this step next. Go to System->Preferences->Network Proxy. Set your settings in there. I suggest, if you have fast internet, to upgrade what you can. Click Applications then Run (at the top). Type in xterm Xterm is easier for me to use cause I've used it a lot. Its a terminal.
    FOR PROXY USERS: Type in this: export http_proxy=http://the_proxy_ip_address:your_port_number/
    Most of the time it'll be 8080, but you've configured it how you've done it.
    FOR OTHERS: You just skip that step. Now type in: sudo apt-get update
    then: sudo apt-get upgrade
    Finally so you can get more stuff cd down to /etc/apt type in sudo cp sources.list.orig
    then: sudo pico sources.list
    remove the # from lines that start with deb or deb-src and have http://[i]some site and stuff[/i]
    Press CTRL+O to save it. then CTRL+X to quit.
    You can now do: sudo apt-get update
    again to get a full list of packages so you can install them. Congrats. You have a powerful, yet friendly OS. Under System->Administration is Synaptic Package Manager you can install a lot of upgrades. Refer to http://ubuntuguide.org for more information. And be sure to check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

    Have fun with Ubuntu - Default apps include:
    OpenOffice 1.1.5
    GIMP
    Firefox - Configure for PROXY if you need to
    GAIM - Configure for PROXY if you need to
    Evolution - Configure for PROXY if you need to
    and a whole heck of a lot more
     
  2. 5300cs macrumors 68000

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    Thanks for going through the trouble to type all this up :)
     
  3. latergator116 macrumors 68000

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    Thanks for typing that up. I actually like it better than Mac OS X – Ubuntu runs much faster on my 700mhz G3.
     
  4. slooksterPSV thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I forgot the screenshot of what Ubuntu looks like afterwards. NOTE: You can change your themes in System->Preferences->Themes I have mine set to look like Royale from Windoze XP.
    Cusomized of mine is as follows:
    Controls = Clearlooks-DeepSky
    Window Border = Chiro
    Icons = Smokey Blue

    Here's a screenshot too:
     

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  5. ham_man macrumors 68020

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    Can I run this off of an external hard drive? I might have to try this if I can...
     
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    Just remember wireless internet doesn't work with Ubuntu.
     
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    Really? I don't think it looks too bad. Besides, that's not the default theme and it can be changed easily anyway.

    They're also in the process of moving toward the Cairo rendering engine.. Vector based rendering, resolution independent everything, dynamic themes.

    You can always get a supported wirless add-in card if needed. Well, unless you have a 12" PB (like I do), in which case you're screwed.
     
  9. eva01 macrumors 601

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    Which i have two 12" PBs ;)
     
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    Didn't notice that. What's up's with that, anyway? One PB is not good enough for you? :p
     
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    Is it difficult to install SuSE on a Mac? Can anyone help me with that??
     
  12. slooksterPSV thread starter macrumors 68030

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    As far as I know, SuSE isn't supported on PPC's + SuSE was bought out by Novell. Lemme check though: http://www.opensuse.org/ supports PPC. Just download the CD's burn them, and reboot the computer holding down the C key to boot from CDROM. I haven't installed it, I'm on dial-up, so you're on ur own, sorry.
     
  13. ravenvii macrumors 604

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    Better than Mac OS X? Ha, you're kidding, right?

    And before anyone jumps on the "FLAMEBAIT! MAC ZEALOT! FLAMEBAIT!" wagon, I have Ubuntu installed on my PC, and I think it's the best Linux I've ever used. I will definitely be watching this distribution.
     
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    Not much of a Linux guy, so I'm gonna ask a newbie question.

    All different iterations of Linux are pretty much the same, right? I mean, all the same commands should be usable no matter which Linux you choose. So why is one Linux better than another? Is it just differences in UI?
     
  15. slooksterPSV thread starter macrumors 68030

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    The Kernels aren't always the same. They add different features to different ones. Some commands are in some versions of Linux, while others have to be downloaded with packages. The support for packages is completely different. What's installed is completely different. Hardware support is way completely different.
    SuSE comes with 4 or 5 different versions of Window Managers - Gnome, KDE, TWM, and 2 others. Ubuntu comes with Gnome. Kubuntu comes with KDE. Slackware I think comes with Blackbox. The GUI's are actually part of their own projects, not of any one Linux OS itself.
    That kind of help? Hope so, otherwise, try googling it.
     
  16. YS2003 macrumors 68020

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    I tried to install Ubuntu onto my Presario notebook PC as an experiment. I burned the live CD on the CD R. But, my PC did not boot from that CD at the restart. So, I went for Fedora Core 4. Now, my old Presario PC (still decent performer at 850 Mhz Pentium III and 20 GB HD) is running on Fedora Core 4 Linux. I am now installing updates now. I have been very intrigued by Linux and I am going to learn more about it by actually using it. Fiannly, my Presario finds its purpose as I have not been using it (too many notebook computers at my place).
     
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    Neat.

    It's ridiculous the kind of steps they have to go through just to write a driver without getting into legal trouble...
     
  19. Mechcozmo macrumors 603

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    Linux... cool idea but needs a lot of work to become useable for just anyone. Example? I've installed Ubuntu on my PC and personally it is the greatest Linux distro. But? Installing programs, running them, and configuring them is a major pain. WINE, QEMU, etc.

    Linux is great but still needs a lot of work, which is unfortunate.
     
  20. Flying Llama macrumors 6502a

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    Sadly, I can only experiment with Ubuntu on my sister's iBook. Ubuntu doesn't seem to have the drivers for my "MATSHITADVD-R UJ-825" superdrive.
    Any way to get it working? This is a rev. A iMac G5. It has been out for more than I year, and this is the drive that came with it... why doesn't ubuntu come with the drivers? Or is it something else?

    llama :confused:
     
  21. slooksterPSV thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Some drivers aren't supported. Actually few aren't supported (like 5 at min.). Most Linux distro's support the basics of any device - e.g. CDROM's, you may have a burner that it doens't recognize, but it recognizes CD's if you put them into it. Same with DVD drives. It's all a matter of what/how something is supported. - But very few items are unsupported. There are a lot of programmers working on supporting everything. So you may want to google it, or try to build a driver your self. If you go for the latter google it, I'm no help there. I've seen the ATI Drivers and I get lost after the first line (and I know C and C++ pretty well, not perfect). Driver's - they aren't that complicated - but it still takes some time to support everything functionally. You may also want to check the vendor's website - no not Apple, but the maker of the drive - Sony, Panasonic, Lite-On, etc. They may have a linux driver. Otherwise go post at http://www.ubuntuforums.org

    EDIT: Some drivers aren't supported, very few are not supported.
     
  22. slooksterPSV thread starter macrumors 68030

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    UBUNTU RECOMMENDED SPECS FOR MAC AND PC:
    Mac -
    At least 256 MB RAM - 512 Recommended
    500MHz or greater G3 or G4 Processor - 700 Recommended
    6GB Minimum of HDD, 20 Recommended

    PC -
    At least 256 MB RAM - 512 Recommended
    350 MHz Pentium II or better processor - AMD's Highly Recommended (I love AMD)
    6GB HDD, 20 Recommended.

    Ok ok, so if you have either a lot of L1 Cache - say 64 or 128KB - or a lot of L2 Cache - say 256KB or 512KB - those will provide significant performance increases. Although, most Pentiums are 256 and 512 or greater, Celeron's are piece of-- AMD is the best!
     
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    Since I have no knowledge whatsoever in programming, I googled it. I found links to the ubuntu forums:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22226.html
    http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-February/021269.html

    Everyone gives me this link. There's nothing else. That's it. It doesn't mention anything about an optical drive, so I guess that has been already applied. I guess there's nothing I can do... :(

    Thanks for your help,

    llama :)
     
  24. micvog macrumors 6502

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    llama,

    Did you ever find a solution to getting Ubuntu to recognize the SuperDrive? I just tried booting the LiveCD (v5.04) on my iMac G5 and ran across the same problem.

    Thanks.
     
  25. Flying Llama macrumors 6502a

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    Sorry micvog, never found a solution. :(

    llama :eek: :mad:
     

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