i got a macbook pro for christmas from my parents and i must say it's the best present i've ever received. i'm so happy with it! but we all know how awesome they are, so enough of that. i, however, bought my parents a new computer for christmas (windows, since thats all they know...) and after setting it up for them, i must say that i am so happy i'm done using windows. upon initial setup i had to run 30+ software updates, which took about an hour to install! thats just ridiculous. i also had to manually remove all the third party software that i didnt want on the machine. that took forever as well. after many restarts i got the computer pretty much down to the way it needed to be. during all of this configuration, the machine's fans were running at tremendous speeds, sounding much like a wind tunnel. i figured once everything was set up they would slow down to normal, but they have not. they are running full blast and it's a horrible sound. i must say i am disappointed in this purchase. i should have bought them a mac mini or an iMac. they need to experience something other than the dark side. bahumbug at micro$oft. merry christmas, happy holidays to everybody.