I need suggestions to convert teacher to apple

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    phreakout13

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    Hi
    I'm in the 8th grade and I need help convincing my social studies teacher to convert to a mac or at least admit that they're better than PCs. We always have debates in class about this subject and bieng the only mac user in class, I, as well as mac, look pretty pathetic. Help macs look good, PLEASE! Thank you!
     
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    phreakout13

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    P.S.
    can anyone give me any cool quotes to say to him? Thanks!:)
     
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    Mac's aren't always better than PCs. It's all about your needs. Trying to argue that one is hands-down better than the other is a fat load of manure. It just makes you sound stupid to people who really know what they are talking about. There are lots of good deals for teachers through the Apple site though. And don't construe this as knocking Apple's stuff, there are many compelling reasons to want to use it in the classroom. There are also reasons to go PC. Depends on what you need to do.
     
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    PC's are becoming more previlent in schools because they are now very stable, very cheap and have a shelf life of arround 3-4 years. Macs are very expencive to buy and to fix should any issues arrise after the warrenty has expired.

    The original CRT iMac was apples last gasp at the larger educational market, however, macs no longer supporting floppy disks has made them a hard choice for schools. Also the inabblity to keep screens, due to the all-in-one systems is also a large draw back.

    For schools x86 machines are a much better choice due to the larger user, software and hardware base, as well for normal educational tasks there is little to no difference between the machines in eithers favour.

    As for gaming I still maintain that my 3 year old 1GHz AMD system is a better gaming machine than the latest Revision of the iMac.
     
  5. macrumors 6502a

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    Ask him "when's the last time you hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete?"

    Then tell him "Macs just work".

    The show him a PowerBook running iMovie & iDVD.

    That should do it.;)
     
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    I could show you my PC Running Vegas 4.0, Sound Forge 6.0 and DVD Architect 1.0 from Sonic Foundry. And it would have the same impact.

    It's horses for courses.
     
  7. macrumors 6502a

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    Sure, but you probably paid over $500 for that software, whereas the iApps came with the Mac.
     
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    Not really:rolleyes: but mum's the word.
     
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    virividox

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    go lend him ur mac for a couple days. i did that and switche dbaout 4 people haha thats f u can be without your baby for awhile
     
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    Teachers also get the educational discount - which is nice.

    But the clincher for me would have to be Virginia Techs Big Mac. 1100 Dual 2.0 G5 PowerMac cluster - its the 3rd largest super computer in the world, but it only cost a fraction of what was considered to be required for such a machine.

    Do a little online searching on this and look at the top 500 list of SuperComputers.

    Comparing bench marks is really subjective. Its hard to get an impartial gauge to overall speed - and the arguments are even worse.

    Real world applications vs. optimized code issues.

    When it comes down to it you should get the machine that you want and need to get the job done. Both PC and Mac have something to offer - and with the G5, Macs have been better able to compete with PCs in terms of speed.

    Apple's software is quite nice as well, and there's even a thread floating around about a guy who submitted a movie to the Sundance film festive all done in iMovie. Pretty good for free software :D

    D
     
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    My last PC was better than your PC and guess what? The mac I have that replaced it is better than it was. There's more to life than gaming. If you want to game get an xbox.

    Educational computers are rarely used for UT or Quake...

    Also comparing free software to stolen software is hardly a reasonable comaprison. If you want we could compare Logic, Final Cut Pro, DVD Studio and Shake with your stolen stuff. If any of us wanted to we could steal stuff too...
     
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    Floppies? Are you kidding? I don't understand why PC users and education still insist that floppy support is essential. Very few families with kids who have a computer do not have access to the internet. If it fits on a floppy it can be e-mailed. Better yet just set up a server at the school that the students can access. If you really are in need of a floppy drive then buy one for less than $50.
     
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    havent used a floppy in 3 years...well okay i admit i have, but not for computer stuff, i stacked them up and use them as ninja stars hehe
     
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    Chip NoVaMac

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    Have him take virgin MS PC's and mac PC's and have him set them up with printers, external drives, Sprint PCS phones and such.

    have him run the systems on the internet for a month or two and see how many times he has problems with spyware or virus 's between the two.

    IMO if you are running main stream apps like Office, the Adobe Suite and such there is not too much a difference. Untill you have text layers that won't translate under Windows, yet do so flawlessly under the Mac.

    I would be interested in hearing how many times he has to reboot under Windows verses the mac. I find to keep my Windows system "clean" I have to reboot evry three to four days.
     
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    Not worth the effort.
    Besides, aren't you supposed to be trying to get a date from the cute girl in your Math class? ;)
     
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    Chip NoVaMac

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    the Mac doesn't demand that you take it to a dinner and movie....
     
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    but the mac can get u date, forget convincing ur teacher, convince teh chicks in ur class to get macs, then u can be their mac master :D
     
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    phreakout13

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    OH YEAH!:cool:
     
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    It's a fall back standard, nothing more.
     
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    i suppose schools still use floppies because not all schools are wired, and lots of schools especially with low funding rely on older machines sometimes donations; thus floppies would be a cheaper alternative rather than cd burners and or network.
     
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    PC vs. Mac is cultural.

    People who value cheapness and flexibility highest like PC's.

    People who value stablity and ease-of-use highest like Macs.

    So instead of trying to convert him, be the "bigger man" (or she-man) and just agree to disagree. --Unless of course stability and ease-of-use are most important to your teacher. In that case, he's an idiot.
     
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    phreakout13

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    yes sir!
    (he-man)
     
  23. macrumors 6502

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    cool quotes

    school´s for fools!!:D
     
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    bannedagain-

    Come on, man, how many times do we have to explain these things to you?

    Macs expensive to fix? They use the same parts as PCs, other than the CPU and motherboard. Try again.

    Macs lack floppy support? No, they just don't come with them anymore. Any USB floppy drive works fine. Try again.

    Quit spreading FUD, man.

    Education is a much different world than the gamer/modder/p2per world you seem to think applies to every situation. I know; I'm a computer tech on a university campus.

    Post the specs that your 3 year old machine had at the time (no upgrades since then count) and we'll compare them to the current iMacs.
     
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    I remember I ran across a website ( I think it was ihateapple.com) and this guy said "mac memory upgrades are so f***** expensive its not worth it to even upgrade one" which of course does not make any sense what so ever.
     

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