I wanna do this thing with my monitors...

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by VoiceofTJ, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. macrumors newbie

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    Here's what I have, what I want to do, and why...

    I have this:

    Model Name: Power Mac G5
    Model Identifier: PowerMac7,3
    Processor Name: PowerPC G5 (2.2)
    Processor Speed: 2 GHz
    Number Of CPUs: 2
    L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
    Memory: 1.5 GB
    Bus Speed: 1 GHz
    Boot ROM Version: 5.1.8f7

    Equipped with this:

    Chipset Model: GeForce FX 5200
    Type: Display
    Bus: AGP
    Slot: SLOT-1
    VRAM (Total): 64 MB
    Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
    Device ID: 0x0321
    Revision ID: 0x00a2
    ROM Revision: 2060

    And these Displays:

    M220Z1_L01:
    Resolution: 1680 x 1050 @ 60 Hz
    Depth: 32-Bit Color
    Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
    Main Display: Yes
    Mirror: Off
    Online: Yes
    Quartz Extreme: Supported

    DELL 1704FPV:
    Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
    Depth: 32-Bit Color
    Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
    Mirror: Off
    Online: Yes
    Quartz Extreme: Supported

    Princeton Digital VL1719
    Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz
    Depth: 32-Bit Color
    Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
    Mirror: Off
    Online: Yes
    Quartz Extreme: Supported

    What I want to do is have the first monitor, (M220Z1_L01), in landscape mode, as the primary monitor, and the other two in portrait mode, mirrored.

    I am a voice over artist, and I want to have a monitor in my booth with the copy displayed on it, as well as on my desk, while the primary has my recording software. That way, I am running almost paperless, and my engineer can make copy changes on the fly, and the changes will of course, be visible on my booth monitor.

    So, what's the best way to accomplish this? I'm not a gamer, I just need enough video power to be able to rotate two of my displays, and give me a sharp, crisp image.

    If I understand what I've been reading, the best solution would be a second video card, with a touch more power. But, I need a card that allows portrait mode.

    Your thoughts? Remember, I don't want a hi-def TV, just nice sharp word documents displayed.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. macrumors 68030

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    IIRC, only ATI cards supported portrait mode back in the G5 days.

    Considering that your G5 has an AGP port, you should look at the ATI 9800Pro.
    The Nvidia 6800Ultra would be the most powerful (original) card for your Mac Pro, but as it is not an ATI card, I'm not sure if it supports portrait mode.
     
  3. MacHamster68, Nov 5, 2010
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    the powermac g5 has apart from the agp slot for the graphics card , would it not be possible then to add another pci graphics card ? i have no idea how to in the powermac and i have no pci card here to add to my G5 powermac dual2.3
    but i have done what he needs on a gaming pc for someone and he did not want a second pc in the bedroom but the 4monitors so i fitted multile pci graphics cards , one for mirror only so he could play in the bed and in the living room at the same time ^^
     
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    OP, you need to replace FX5200 with Radeon 9600,Dual DVI version and add PCI Radeon 9200 as secondary card,like this one.
    You'll be able to connect 4 displays and rotate at least 3 of them (I'm not sure if rotation works with VGA port).
     
  5. thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Cool, and thanks for the help. I'm going to try and get the cards mentioned, and I'll post how it works out.

    Thanks again!
     
  6. macrumors 6502

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    Or... I can't think why a single card with two outputs and a vga-splitter wouldn't work. That way, your graphics card would be displaying 2 screens: One landscape, which is displayed on your primary monitor, and one portrait, which is then split using cables to two mirrored portrait monitors.

    Agp graphics cards may not be expensive, but not only would the above method be cheaper, but I imagine it'd be easier to set up too.
     
  7. thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Actually, this is what I'm doing now, but the current card doesn't offer portrait mode, and there seems to be some signal loss on the split channel, the monitors appear slightly fuzzy. Not unreadable, by any means, but after a few hours I'm pretty sure I'd have a headache.
     
  8. macrumors 6502

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    Fair enough. I would have thought that vga splitters are available with an amplifier to boost the weak signal, but then the cost of that is probably near enough the same as a cheapo second card would be.
     
  9. thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Bought two of the cards recommended, one did not work in the unit, the other does not allow rotation. And I cannot mirror just two monitors. Any other ideas?
     
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  11. VoiceofTJ, Nov 15, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2010

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    I have the 9800 and the 9200, (my bad, they both fit), the rotation works, (thanks a ton for the link!), and I found the solution to the mirroring issue. You go to System Preferences>Displays>Arrangement, and option+drag the monitors together that you want mirrored. This allows you to have some mirrored and some not.

    Rotation does work with the VGA port.

    Thanks for the advice, everyone!
     
  12. 666sheep, Nov 18, 2010
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  13. macrumors 68000

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    I do not know whether I recall it right. The others might help/correct me.

    For AGP G5 PowerMacs I always thought the X800XT was the fastest original Mac Card. Flashed PC-Cards to be considered as the fastest are the 7800GS, 256MB (or 512MB version, though only 256MB are seen by the OS, it can easier be overclocked and so is faster than the 7800GS, 256MB). The 7800GS has to have a G70 chip! not G71. The flashed X850XT were reported to be unstable.

    list of AGP-Cards: http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/4B4B7BA2-7ABB-47F1-87AC-B03D37942BEE.html
    and http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Graphics_Cards.html
    This might help, too: http://www.welovemacs.com/pomacg5vica3.html just for an overview.

    to make it complete: PCIe G5 PowerMacs have the 7800GT, 256MB as fastest original card. I think the original X1900XT is about the same speed but has other/more preferences options. Or the Nvidia Quadro FX 4500, which was also roughly the same speed or sometimes said to be about 10-12% faster than the 7800GT, but specialized for CAD. The fastest flashed one is a 7800GT, 512MB, which is reported to be 15-20% faster than Quadro FX.
    Full list of PCIe-Cards: http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/71BBF3EF-9713-4C53-8B80-26771F8A4087.html

    I do not remember what ports (DVI/VGA) and display sizes they all support, but I think the X800XT could handle a 30" apple cinema display. (x800xt is reported to get very hot! consider fan noise)
     

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