"iAPP"codename "Lalal" and new PDA! Codenamed "Roach"

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  1. macrumors newbie

    Jul 22, 2002
    USA Baltimore
    From inside source from a developer who is one of the workers on the 10.x OS (Meta developer) and a friend at the company that is still nameless at the time. Apple is working with another company for another "iApp" codenamed “Lalal” in Panther 10.3
    The info that my tight lipped friend who works for this third party Company is that it involves a new PDA for apple codenamed Roach.

    Here is an excerpt from a chat he and I had his aim name will not be shown because he would kick my ass if it leaked he told.

    DeepPanther: but I know something about 10.3 you don’t
    DeepPanther: dude but ha-ha I know a lot you don’t know
    DeepPanther: hahaha
    DeepPanther: like "a lot" :)
    TricksDealer: I know allot about 10.3 too
    DeepPanther: there will be a new iapp
    DeepPanther: lalal
    TricksDealer: new file formats
    DeepPanther: that’s all I say
    DeepPanther: you know about roach?
    TricksDealer: ext3, riser Js, and like a few others
    TricksDealer: roach
    DeepPanther: nah
    DeepPanther: PDA roach
    DeepPanther: lol I will ****
    TricksDealer: ahaa that
    DeepPanther: I can’t say anymore
    TricksDealer: I know that server of 10.3 will allow clustering and grid computing
    TricksDealer: with pcs too :)
    DeepPanther: no this isn't about that
    TricksDealer: and PDA is a newer ipod with a full touch screen
    TricksDealer: and the Newton software is a major part
    TricksDealer: that’s why they added it to 10.2
    DeepPanther: what do you know about a 3rd party app?
    TricksDealer: not much why
    TricksDealer: do tell
    DeepPanther: I can’t
    TricksDealer: why
    DeepPanther: honest to go I will tell soon as the money deal goes through
    TricksDealer: ok how come you won’t tell man?
    TricksDealer: I won’t tell anyone
    TricksDealer: I have a friend who works in apple anyway
    TricksDealer: he is one of the Meta developers (inside developers) for OSX
    DeepPanther: ok ask him about a 3rd party app :)
    DeepPanther: it will be cocoa (duh) and work with the new PDA ****
    TricksDealer: wait are you talking about the palm app?
    DeepPanther: something along those lines
    TricksDealer: the one for the BeOS ****
    DeepPanther: tell him to think 3rd party
    DeepPanther: ;)
    TricksDealer: dude
    TricksDealer: stop ***** with me
    TricksDealer: just tell
    DeepPanther: nope
    TricksDealer: why
    DeepPanther: cause I am not going to start a leak
    TricksDealer: you know and how did you find out pray tell you don’t work for apple
    TricksDealer: so tell me
    TricksDealer: I know no one else that uses apples
    DeepPanther: lol I don’t work yet
    TricksDealer: I applied for the Apple store
    DeepPanther: I will be tech support for this 3rd party company when the deal with apple goes through
    DeepPanther: you get it?
    TricksDealer: I dropped of my resume two days ago
    TricksDealer: and the application
    DeepPanther: ahh :)
    DeepPanther: good luck
    TricksDealer: third party app....
    DeepPanther: yeah ask your apple connection about it
    TricksDealer: ......
    DeepPanther: he might now ;)
    DeepPanther: lol
    TricksDealer: so tell me
    DeepPanther: in like a month
    TricksDealer: dude
    TricksDealer: I don’t have a job
    TricksDealer: I don’t have money
    TricksDealer: I don’t even have credit in my own name
    TricksDealer: their is no way of insider trading
    DeepPanther: and I cant say
    TricksDealer: I know no other Mac people
    DeepPanther: its not that
    TricksDealer: you already told me enough just stop pulling my sting yanking my chain and tell me or I will kill you
    DeepPanther: its that I am not going to start a leak until the deal w/apple goes through
    DeepPanther: kill me.....
    TricksDealer: dude I’m not going to tell a bloody soul
    DeepPanther: :-X
    TricksDealer: just tell me you going to make me go nutz
    TricksDealer: please
    TricksDealer: god I'm begging here
    DeepPanther: I can't sorry :(
    TRICKSDEALER: I hate when people do this to me putting something like this in front of my nose
    TRICKSDEALER: which company is it?
    DeepPanther: lol I will keep giving you clues
    DeepPanther: I cant say
    TricksDealer: well what do they bloody well make?
    TricksDealer: PDA?
    DeepPanther: no hardware
    TricksDealer: wait.....
    DeepPanther: software
    TricksDealer: Amiga?
    TricksDealer: are you talking about Amiga
    DeepPanther: nope
    DeepPanther: you will find out soon
    TricksDealer: no
    TricksDealer: you tell me now
    DeepPanther: builds will leak in a month
  2. macrumors 604


    Jul 16, 2002
    back in NYC!
    Sweet. I hope that isn't fake. I never expected apple to get
    involved with the PDA business after that comment about how
    the PDA market was a dying market and such. The iApp will be
    something dumb that is a port for synching your PDA, for inputing
    stuff into the PDA, and for customizing the PDA. I am hoping we
    will see an office application from apple. An office application by
    apple is way overdue.
  3. macrumors 604


    Aug 9, 2002
    Springfield, OR (Home of the Simpsons)
    Well Apple also said that there wouldn't be a DVD burner in the next Powerbooks and here it is.
  4. macrumors 604


    Jul 16, 2002
    back in NYC!
    I guess that is true. But it just seems like the PDA market and the
    cell phone markets are merging, and if apple is to make a PDA
    it should be very 'phone-ish'. That way people who are looking
    for an ultra cool phone can get it, and people who are looking for
    an ultra-cool PDA can get it. I don't think it would be the best
    move for apple to make, but don't mind...
  5. macrumors 604


    Aug 9, 2002
    Springfield, OR (Home of the Simpsons)
    There's nothing here that says that it can't be a phone.
  6. macrumors regular

    Aug 31, 2002
    Apple also said as soon as they could get a superdrive in the powerbooks they would.

    I expect the markets would really hammer Apple's share price if they produced a PDA.
  7. macrumors 604


    Jul 16, 2002
    back in NYC!
    I know, I am just saying that if it isn't a phone and a PDA then
    apple will suffer big losses.
  8. macrumors 601


    Aug 9, 2002
    I think by entering the crowded MP3 player market with the iPod and being extremely succesful Apple has already proven they know how to handle these things.
  9. macrumors regular

    Aug 31, 2002
    Not really. The MP3 player market and the PDA market are completely different.

    For one the MP3 market has shipments of over 20 times more than the PDA market and is also growing significantly each year. Even despite Apple's success they are yet to break 10% of that market too.

    The PDA market is decreasing in size and is fading into obscurity as other items take over its major funtions. It has very little in the way of a roadmap into the future or expectation for growth. It lacks any truly killer funtionality to get it accepted by consumers and it really doesn't face the rosiest of futures. Apple would be really silly to go after the PDA market specifically and I believe Steve Jobs is well aware of that fact and knows exactly how to handle it, stay away.
  10. macrumors 6502

    Jan 2, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    PDA's here to stay...

    The only reason the PDA market languishes is because the PDA's on the market suck. People want and will pay for a PDA that provides great power and functionality. And BTW, have you noticed that most of the PC Manufacturers are still working hard to get INTO the PDA market?

    The mantra that Apple will never get back into the PDA market is tired; of course, they will. They remain on the sidelines of this market to their own detriment.
  11. macrumors regular

    Jun 14, 2002

    I think the only real thing holding back the ipod from dominating the MP3 player market is the price tag. When the average joe looks at a 500 buck ipod, then looks at one of those tiny flash memory players that are 100 bucks, he will choose the cheap one.

    I agree what you say about the pda market, its crowded, and has no direction. Knowing apple, it could be possible for them to redefine that new direction.

    Features of a pda and a phone in a tablet pc?
  12. Gus
    macrumors 65816


    Jan 1, 2002
    If you want to make a PDA that will sell like hotcakes, then make one with a color screen that is big enough to read at arm's length, and have an always-on internet connection that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to have. When this is possible, you will see PDAs hit it. You could have a PDA that you can check phone listings on the road, get maps on the fly, check stock prices, get the weather while traveling, manage your account without carrying receipts everywhere, get live sports scores, read internet articles, and everything else that you have to lug a computer around for. PDAs don't need to have full-fledged word processors or spread-sheets to make it big. People will still do those things on their computers.

    Yes, I know that there are programs on cards that will give you phone numbers and ,aps, etc., but they are not "live". you have to get new programs every now and again, and I can't get news from the cards.

    I truly believe that true internet service on a nice screen will bring people to the PDA market. I don't like surfing on my phone because you can't read the dang thing like a real article, and you have to have it in your face.

    I don't know, it's just me, but I will wait until everything I said above is possible. Of course, I was one of the ones that was hoping the iWalk was for real too (minus that ugly scroll wheel n the front of it, of course).

    My 2¢

  13. macrumors 68020


    Sep 18, 2001
    Denver, CO
    Hmm... I call BS. My gut intuition is that the same person wrote both sides of that conversation, and it just doesn't ring true.

    Besides, it's another damned PDA rumor thread. Weren't we shooting people who started those at one point?
  14. macrumors newbie

    Nov 9, 2002
    Maybe he is the one who made the iWalk video.;)

    DJ_TRicks go back to spymac where you belong ;-)
  15. macrumors 68000

    Over Achiever

    Jul 22, 2002
    Toledo, OH, formerly Twin Cities, MN
    :mad: Thats not nice :mad:

    (now where's that finger wagging smiley when I need it :))
  16. macrumors 604


    Jul 16, 2002
    back in NYC!
    That conversation does seem a little fake, but it is impossible
    to tell.

    Telomar explained why apple shouldn't make a PDA almost
    perfectly. If you haven't read his 'argument' then read it now.
  17. macrumors 68020

    Jul 4, 2002
    Muncie, Indiana
    I really wish people would NOT post chat transcripts...

    ... instead, they should abstract them into something resembling cogent English. It would be a plus if they would try to spell correctly, too.
  18. macrumors newbie

    Feb 3, 2002
    :cool: I thought a roach was something that you smoke:cool:
  19. macrumors 603


    Feb 2, 2002
    Obviously something that *this* guy has smoked a lot of. Good ****, too. I want some.

    Speculating is fine. But rumormongoring while claiming "fact" is just BS.

  20. macrumors 604


    Aug 9, 2002
    Springfield, OR (Home of the Simpsons)
    Where do you think 99% of the rumors that most of you hold up as fact come from?
  21. macrumors regular

    May 4, 2002
    i can't believe you guys haven't figured out this guy's a fake. read his other posts, geez
  22. macrumors 604


    Aug 9, 2002
    Springfield, OR (Home of the Simpsons)
    Who cares it's a rumor just as any other rumor. No shred of evidence you just have to take the persons word for it. A lot of the rumors that get held up as fact on the front page of major rumor sites come from posts just as this.

    If it were on the front page here at MacRumors you would believe it wouldn't you.

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