iBook white died while running with closed lid :(

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  1. perreau macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    here is what happened:

    By mistake i closed the lid on my iBook while listening to music for a long time. Suddenly the music was scrambled and it stopped. Then the iBook would not boot. I left it for a while and then it booted ok, but then after running it for a while the screen got scrambled and it would not boot again.

    I kept restarting it, but it came to a point where nothing showed on the screen, but the iBook was on, but i only heard the fan, no hard disk sound and nothing on screen.

    I am not sure if its the hard disk or the screen that's gone, or something else.

    Now it does not even charge and would only run when the power cable is plugged in,

    can anyone assist please?

    kind regards,

    Luc
     
  2. tpjunkie macrumors 65816

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    is it one of the g3 ibooks? It could be your logic board. If you have to correct model, you can make them replace it for free.
     
  3. perreau thread starter macrumors newbie

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    iBook model


    iBook (Opaque 16 VRAM) 700 Opaque White non-metallic none 12.1-inch Tray-load (dual usb) model number: A1005

    Thats my model
     
  4. Horrortaxi macrumors 68020

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    Agreed. That sounds like a logic board failure. You've got the right model for one. Check Apple's website to find the range of serial numbers included in the replacement program. My guess is that it is. Then call Apple or go to an Apple Store.
     
  5. tpjunkie macrumors 65816

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    yep, thats what i'd put my money on as well.

    Hope the replacement process goes smoothly.
     
  6. perreau thread starter macrumors newbie

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    warranty

    what if its not under warranty anymore?
     
  7. Urdam macrumors member

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    Warranty

    The iBooks with logic board issues are being fixed regardless of warranty. It's a KNOWN, very common flaw that Apple has finally admitted to. Never should a large batch of logic boards fail.
     
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  10. question fear macrumors 68020

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    i think they are agreeing its essentially a recall if you need it replaced so warranty or not they should replace it for you.
     
  11. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    FYI: Logic board replacements not under warranty (or under special conditions...such as the 2003-2004 logic failure outbreak) would be costly, around $800, which is a large percentage of the price of the iBook yourself. Be glad that you fell under one of the special conditions.

    Others include: Firewire problems with the 5GB iPod, the "dotted" Powerbooks, and certain dual 2.0GHz G5 motherboard failures, all of which have been posted on threads at MacRumors. (Don't make me dig them up, I HATE searching for things.)
     
  12. realityisterror macrumors 65816

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    if apple asks you what happened to make it fail, you should probably lie about it... those machines are not designed to have lid-closed operation (right?). powerbooks (i think) are the only machines to have lid-closed operation. i know for a fact that all powerbooks currently being sold can do that as long as you have an external keyboard, mouse, and monitor installed. i think there is a hack that lets you use lid-closed without having those plugged in...

    reality
     
  13. thedoc1111 macrumors regular

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    You most likely overheated your iBook, they CANNOT be run lid closed as they cannot dissipate enough heat. By running it lid closed you have invalidated any warranty you had on it (except possibly the Logic Board Repair Extension Program).

    The iBook should sleep automatically on close, if it does not, either its internal reed switch has gone, or you have modified the internal software.

    Either way, NEVER run an iBook lid closed, under any circumstances unless you want to have a dead overheated iBook.
     
  14. applemacdude macrumors 68040

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  15. jemeinc macrumors 6502a

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    Mine's out getting a new logic board right now... My question is does anyone think this is a permanent fix or just a bandaid ?... I wish I would have been given the option to upgrade to a G4 iBook... Right now I have no faith in my machine... I'll give this one shot at a repair & if it happens again & they won't replace it I'm done...
     
  16. Koodauw macrumors 68040

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    I think I am going to link all people who start a "How do I get my notebook to run with the lid closed" thread to this from now on.

    Good luck on getting you Logic Board fixed.
     
  17. phillymjs macrumors regular

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    My logic board went back in November, and on this past Wednesday the replacement started acting up in the same fashion. I called Apple on Thursday and there's another shipping box making its way to me now so my baby can go back in again for logic board #3.

    When it comes back I'm going to handle the thing with kid gloves. I may bite the bullet and upgrade to a 12" PB after those receive their next revision, because I need my laptop every day in the field-- I can't have one that repeatedly needs to go in for servicing. I felt naked working without it when it was out for repair before.

    For those wondering how it's possible to run the iBook with the lid closed, apparently this is something else that can be enabled in the firmware via Screen Spanning Doctor. I don't know how well it works in 'clamshell' mode and I'm not inclined to try it. I only use SSD to enable desktop spanning.

    ~Philly
     
  18. MacRAND macrumors 6502a

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    Logic board or battery

    perreau, I have the same Mac as you do.
    Apple fixed mine within the 1st year, discovering the logic board problem when I sent my book in because the battery "screw" broke.
    The logic board replacement is without any problems.

    When fully charged, what was your battery TIME just before it died?
    If you are a heavy user like me, your battery may be ready for replacement.

    However, the symptoms displayed on your LCD do suggest a logic board problem.

    Oddly, after replacing the OLD battery with a NEW one, my iBook failed to charge or awake. It just stopped. Desperate for any solution, I dug out the OLD battery (which still had an hour strength it it, just not 3 or 4 hours) and my iBook magically sprung to life and charged.

    Switching back to the NEW battery, the symptoms never returned.
    MORAL of the story: save old parts.

    Significance to you, you may have a dead battery.
    Apple Hardware diagnostics will sort it out for you.
    Good luck for a painless solution.
     
  19. thedoc1111 macrumors regular

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    But the Lid Closed operation on Powerbooks that is enabled on iBooks using Screen Spanning Doctor is highly specialised - you need external keyboard mouse and DIsplay plugged in - doesn't sound like our case?

    -- Good point about linking here from ppl who want to use iBook as a Music Player in a backpack or a sniffer in a suitcase - Never try it!
     

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