iChat!

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by gopher, May 6, 2002.

  1. gopher macrumors 65816

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    Well anybody know if iChat will implement voice and videochat which has been lacking in AOL's current IM for the Mac?

    http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020506/sfm116_1.html

    So far if one wants these features one either has to use an IRC network or ISPq chat on the Mac.
     
  2. spuncan macrumors 6502

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    First AIM does support audio chat. My guess is that iChat will do what all iApps. do. It will elegantly and powerfully pack the current features plus a few new ones in to a simple to use comm. device
     
  3. Pismo macrumors 6502

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    What I really want to know is if iChat will let us use our existing AIM screen names. I'm afraid that it won't because no one would use AOL's AIM client if it did. I do not want to use my iTools account to chat with people. The only reason I use AIM is because every person I know uses it and nothing else. AIM was great in OS 9 but I hated sitting around waiting for a new release (beta) for OS X. The last release was back in December and a new version was released today. I don't care about video and voice chat. Not everyone has high speed internet access. I'm in college which has ethernet and at work we're on a T1 :D so I guess I'm lucky until I have to go home and use my dial-up. I don't want these apps to become bloated with features I don't want to use.
     
  4. ericb88 macrumors member

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    is there a difference between ichat and downloading aim if i'm not on a network?
     
  5. shadowfax0 macrumors 6502

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    About iChat...

    Does anyone think that we will be able to remove iChat if we wanted to? Like I don't mind if they offer it on the OS, but when they say 'integrated', that gives me the shivers. What's a graphics professional going to do with a chat utility built into the OS? Nothing. But if you can remove it, then fine, that's all dandy, but if you can't, well, we can see how happy M$ makes people...
     
  6. Pismo macrumors 6502

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    I just read on Apple's website that users can use their mac.com user names as well as AIM/AOL user names for chatting. I wonder if iChat will support file transfers too.
     
  7. 780pullman macrumors newbie

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    file transfer

    iChat has file transfer all the info on Jaguar can be found at the apple website under http://www.apple.com/macosx/newversion/
    here is the quote from the apple site "As with other chat programs, iChat lets you exchange files".
     
  8. Pismo macrumors 6502

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    Re: file transfer

    Thanks 780pullman. I must have mised that. 10.2 is going to rock!!!
     
  9. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    This might be tied in with the videoconferencing "iApp" we've been hearing about lately...iChat would be able to take advantage of the QT6/MPEG4 video in 10.2.
     
  10. cleo macrumors 65816

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    I have a couple of very specific concerns re: iChat.

    1) Memory usage. Adium uses virtually no system resources, whereas iTunes... well.

    2) Ads. I supposed that it is perfectly possible that Apple has paid enough for the use of the technology not to have to look at AOL ads constantly (as in the standard AIM client). But somehow I doubt it.

    3) Screen names. What if two different people own "JohnSmith" @mac. com and @aol.com? How will it be determined who gets the rights to chat with it (well, obviously the AOL person will). Seems like it's not the best thing to be so loudly advertising that you can use your mac.com name when there's a good chance you won't be able to (given AOL's ungodly number of subscribers).

    All in all, I'll certainly keep an open mind until I see this thing in the flesh, but until then, my opinion is that it's going to have to take something truly groundbreaking to get me to stop using Adium X.
     
  11. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    iChat looks pretty cool...hopefully it does things more efficiently than AIM currently does under X...

    my question involves Mail....now that there's an Apple native app which does AIM chat...will Mail have the ability to handle AOL's mail??
     
  12. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus

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    It's hard to tell from the verbage on the Jaguar website:
    Guess we'll have to wait 'til August/September to see.
     
  13. cleo macrumors 65816

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    About one year ago or a little bit more there was some sort of instant messaging engines community whose more known members where Yahoo and Microsoft claiming to be wanting to develop an standard for cross-client instant messaging (i.e. be able to instat message to others wheter they use MSN, Yahoo or whatever other client). They also claimed that the biggest obstacle to developing such standard was AOL position to keep its client closed from others, and having inot account that AOL also owns ICQ such a task resulted futile without the cooperation of AOL.

    Now, this piece of news can mean two things to me. 1) Since AOL is letting Apple use its technology, opening its AIM to abroad screen names (mac.com), this might mean this is the beginning of cross-client instant messaging which I think would be one of the biggest and greater news related to the Internet since a long long time, making IM as easy and universal to use as e-mail; 2) None of the above, Apple is just supporting AOL's monopolistic and narrowminded point of view about IM, which I would find rather sad: I want to be able to IM with users of windows, linux, iPaq, Dreamcast, mobile phones or whatever other new gadget appears in a near future and that will only be possible with a public, free and standarized protocol upon which all the important parties agree.

    Let's hope it is the first meaning, although, quite honestly, I doubt it.
     
  15. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    All this talk about this and that, but nobody has asked the really important question...

    How many smileys and what types. I mean, will I still be able to make the clown, the skelaton, howbout the cowboy??

    These are important issues that must be resolved!
    :cool:
     
  16. sparkleytone macrumors 68020

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    notice that while aqua is still there in these screens, the brushed metal is taking a much more prominent rule than before.
     
  17. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    hmm...how many more possible smileys can we endure do u think?! ;)
     
  18. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    aim for os 9 supports audio chat, but not the os x version... this is from the website concerning os x's latest aim version (from today)

    "These additional features, available on the previous AIM software, will soon be added to AIM for Mac OS X:

    File Sharing
    Talk
    Stock Alerts
    HTTP Proxy Support"

    so, they still need talking and file exchange to even come close to os 9 version. we'll see if ichat can top all this.
     
  19. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    it's just funny that this is coming from an adult tax lawyer.... haha.

    i should've known that mcrain was a closet aim junkie.
     
  20. mmmdreg macrumors 65816

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    I'd like it if iChat was more an ICQ&AIM client because I know NOONE that uses AIM anymore...ICQ is what I use but since MS bundles its windows with MSN now, many more people are starting to use that, even if it's rubbish...so a cross-client client would probaby be the best thing...maybe iChat2 will be that...and since AOL owns ICQ, why don't they combine it with AIM and make 1 from 2...
     
  21. ibjoshua macrumors 6502a

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    copyright

    umm
    is anyone else concerned about the fact that someone else has been using the name for years?

    http://www.ichat.com/
     
  22. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

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    Re: copyright

    Weird that. I wonder if a law suite is in the making?

    Hey mcrain, check out all the smilies you can have at cgtalk.com, they have beerdrinking, thumbs up and a whole host of other, very cool because some of them are animated. But it might get a little too much. I think arn has selected a nice bunch for MacRumors.
     
  23. sjs macrumors 6502

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    more likely that Apple has already bought the rights to the name from ichat.com or has even incorporated some of their software or other property...
     
  24. Macmaniac macrumors 68040

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    iChat

    Yet another cool i app! What could be next?
     
  25. big macrumors 65816

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    ummmm, in 9.x it does, how do you do it in X?
     

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