Ideal Macs

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by guzhogi, Dec 27, 2006.

  1. guzhogi macrumors 68020


    Aug 31, 2003
    Wherever my feet take me…
    I created this thread to see what your ideal Macs would be.
    Pro laptop
    -Core 2 Quad/Extreme
    -2 GB RAM
    -160 GB 5400 RPM Hard drive or 120 GB 7200 RPM
    -Other stuff same as MacBook Pro

    Consumer laptop
    -Same as MacBook

    -Dual quad-core (8 total) Xeon
    -Other specs same as xServe

    Cosumer desktop
    -Core 2 Duo
    -Same as Mac Mini

    Mid-range Mac
    -2-3 5.25" drive bays
    -1-2 3.5" external drive bays and 2 internal
    -Core 2 Duo
    -1 PCIe 16x, 2 PCIe 1x, 2 PCI-x slots
    -Option to get just motherboard to build own computer

    -Same as current

    Pro Mac
    -Full tower
    -5 5.25" drive bays (user serviceable like regular PC cases)
    -2 external & 4 internal 3.5" drive bays
    -2 quad-core Xeons
    -Up to 16 GB RAM
    -Option to get just motherboard to build own computer
    -3 PCIe 16x (2 for SLI, 1 for PhysX), 3 PCIe <16x, 2 PCI-X slots

    I know for the Pro Mac, a lot of the PCI slots & drive bays won't be used, but will be available if needed.
  2. Allotriophagy macrumors 6502a

    Sep 5, 2006
    All that would be needed to make the current 24" iMac absolutely perfect would be a user-accessible MXM slot for upgrading the graphics card with either Apple or third party cards.
  3. Maxwell Smart macrumors 6502a

    Maxwell Smart

    Jan 29, 2006
    My ideal mac would be a Macbook with even a very low-end dedicated GPU. When hooked up to my external 22" LCD it chokes on stuff like dashboard and expose :(
  4. phillipjfry macrumors 6502a


    Dec 12, 2006
    Peace in Plainfield
  5. dpaanlka macrumors 601


    Nov 16, 2004
    I think the current Mac Pro is just about as perfect as a full-size desktop could be. A mid-range tower the size and functional parity to the G4 towers would be nice but I don't see that happening. The elimination of all GMA video chipsets from the entire line would be a big plus. I'd also like to see Front Row on everything.
  6. Anonymous Freak macrumors 601

    Anonymous Freak

    Dec 12, 2002
    Consumer notebook: The MacBook. Upgrade to Santa Rosa (and the X3000 video chipset,) one month after the MBP gets it. Maybe make mid-range discrete graphics an option on the BlackBook.

    Pro notebook: The MacBook Pro, but with the video chip on an upgradeable card (there are mobile graphics cards, for example MXM, that are an industry standard. Unfortunately, it would likely cause the MBP to increase in size.) And an ExpressCard/54 slot would be nice in place of the /34. Upgrade to Santa Rosa (but with discrete graphics,) as soon as possible. Maybe make integrated graphics an option, for people who need the MBP features, but not discrete graphics. Add a 11-12" widescreen model with ALL the features of the full-size models. (i.e. don't just wrap a discrete-graphics MacBook in Aluminum the way they did with the 12" PowerBook vs. the iBook.) Upgrade to Santa Rosa as soon as possible. (Mid April.) No move to Core 2 Quad/Extreme, until Intel comes out with an official mobile version. They are desktop chips. They have no place in a notebook. (I do *NOT* want a 90+W chip in my notebook. That would throw Apple's 'quiet, sleek and sexy' out the window.)

    Consumer low end desktop: The mini, but with Core 2 Duo. Upgrade to Santa Rosa with X3000 graphics one month after the MBP, at the same time as the MB. MAYBE add an MXM slot, if possible without significantly increasing the size. If you're going to increase the size even a little bit, move to a 3.5" hard drive. Drop the lowest-end model back to $499.

    No tower consumer desktop. It's not Apple's market.

    Consumer high end desktop: The iMac, but using desktop chips instead of notebook. With a Core 2 Quad/Extreme available at the high end. Also, the enclosure is big enough, use an industry standard PCI Express slot for graphics, just with an internal DVI cable to the display, and a dongle going to the external mini-DVI port. (i.e. the 'external' side of the graphics card would still be inside, and you'd just plug two DVI cables in, one going to the internal display, one going to the externally-accessible DVI port.) Use the P965/G965 chipset, so they could then make X3000 graphics standard across the line, but with upgradeable graphics available on all models. MAYBE add a PCI Express x4 slot, half-height. All but the 17" model should have room for this, and it might even be possible to rejigger the guts to make it fit in the 17" model. Perfect for a TV tuner. Make the 'external' side of the card under a removable plate, (like the TAM,) that way if you don't use the slot, you don't see it. Do these upgrades at the same time that the MBP upgrades to Santa Rosa, or earlier. (Like MacWorld in a couple weeks.)

    Pro desktop: Mac Pro, add Quad-Core. Use a newer chipset that has more PCI Express lanes available, like the Power Mac G5 Quad had. Maybe offer it with one PCI Express slot converted to a PCI-X slot, the way the Xserve has available. Make the last PCI Express slot a separate board from the main motherboard, that way it's easy to configure which way you want it, without having to design two completely separate motherboards. So the end slot would be a daughtercard that is in the same plane as the motherboard, connected via a socket that contains wiring for both PCI Express and PCI-X, or is just a PCI Express socket, and the PCI-X daughtercard has an Express-to-X chip on it. This would even possibly add the side benefit of making the third PCI Express socket a double-wide slot, so there would be two dual-width PCI Express x16 slots, one single-width PCI Express x8 or x16, and one single-width configurable PCI Express x8 or PCI-X slot. Officially support 4 GB DIMMs, like the Xserve. (I think they already work just fine, but having it as an 'official' thing would be nice that way you can get technical support when you have them in.) Add Blu-Ray and/or HD-DVD as an option in the second optical bay. (Heck, Blu-Ray in the primary bay, HD-DVD in the secondary.) Make quad-core and 4 GB DIMM support available *NOW*, (since it already supports it as is,) and the other changes in Q1 07. Maybe March.

    Server: Xserve, plus quad core. Do it now.
  7. trainguy77 macrumors 68040

    Nov 13, 2003
    Well front row will run just fine on the mac pro. I have it running. I just also got a IR receiver the remote is on the way from somewhere in the states. But I would like the remote included and a built in IR.

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