If you believe in evolution, how do you explain...

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  1. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    how living things came from non-living things? When Spontaneous Generation has been proven to be false by Louis Pasteur.
     
  2. Scarlet Fever macrumors 68040

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    do you mean by non-living things like rocks?

    Living things have, to my knowledge, always existed (ie mosses, trees, seaweed etc.), and we, over a period of a few million years, have evolved from them.
     
  3. iBookG4user thread starter macrumors 604

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    I mean how did living things come into existence, like if you believe that the big bang happened, then how did one solitary atom which is not living come to explode and create living beings?
     
  4. Chundles macrumors G4

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    You're kidding right?

    It's not all that difficult to create the basic building blocks of life (amino acids) by zapping a mixture of chemicals and water with electricity. All you need then is billions of years of the early conditions of the Earth and you'll eventually get something. All of this takes time, lots of time, unimaginable time. The sort of time you can't simulate in a lab, especially not a lab in the time of Louis Pasteur. The only lab that can show the effects of billions of years of change is the one we're all living in right now.

    A few questions for those who don't believe in evolution, how do you explain the presence of transition species throughout the fossil records? How do you explain the lack of human bones amongst the dinosaurs if we were all created together? Do you really think some deity went to all the trouble of layering increasingly complex structures in the sediment?
     
  5. Chaszmyr macrumors 601

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    The case against spontaneous generation that you're talking about showed that macroscopic life doesnt spontaneously generate, not that microscopic life doesn't. Also, I don't know how common it is for life to be generated from non-life, it might be very rare and not happen under ordinary circumstances, but showing that it doesnt happen under ordinary circumstances doesnt show that it is impossible.
     
  6. Sdashiki macrumors 68040

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    Wait wait wait.

    Back up...

    Maggots dont come from meat?

    Mice dont come from wheat?

    Where have I been?



    btw: wtf is this doing here, a single line original post about a whirl-friggen-wind subject; this is MACRUMORS not EVOLUTIONRUMORS.com?!

    Wait wait wait.

    Back up...

    Maggots dont come from meat?

    Mice dont come from wheat?

    Where have I been?



    btw: wtf is this doing here, a single line original post about a whirl-friggen-wind subject; this is MACRUMORS not EVOLUTIONRUMORS.com?!
     
  7. thedude110 macrumors 68020

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    How can you be sure beginning exists outside of human perception?

    I'm weary of the unmoved mover. Gimme something new to chew on.
     
  8. CanadaRAM macrumors G5

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    Don't have to.

    Sufficient only to demonstrate that the theory holds for observable evidence.

    Unless you don't believe in antibiotic-resistant bacteria, too.
     
  9. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    It's interesting listening to how creationists think. It seems to me that they can't get away from the idea of authority, so they have to find a famous scientist who "proves" that creationism is true (usually by analogy). It's really not about systematically thinking through a question, it's about finding a source in which to have faith.
     
  10. srf4real macrumors 68030

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    Impossible. Life is of God. Wave your hand in front of your face and tell me you came from some primordial ooze. I believe you're only lying to yourself if you can't see the miracle of life.:)
     
  11. Chundles macrumors G4

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    I reckon it's more amazing that we came from primordial ooze than by some bloke going *click* and making life appear.
     
  12. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    *waves hand*

    Still looks like ooze to me.

    Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
     
  13. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Umpteen billion human-years ago, God heard this Big Bang. He went out for a week and checked on what had happened. Maybeso five or seven billion human-years ago He wandered this way. He had a sinus attack, hawked a goober and spat. Voila! Life!

    The eons went by and the rest, as they say, is History. Pre-Cambrian through Cambrian and on down to now. Eocene, Miocene, and the Recent, or Obscene.

    Of course, He might have been a She. I wasn't there.

    'Rat
     
  14. shecky Guest

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    prove it.
     
  15. Xander562 macrumors 68000

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    Hahaha, this made me laugh. Seriously, if this isn't proof of evolution, I don't know what is.
     
  16. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

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    here is a basic lesson in science

    hmmm hmmm cough cough

    NOTHING is proven E-V-E-R

    A theory never becomes a law

    What is a theory? an eplanation of why something happens

    What is a law? an outright statement of fact ex. rocks fall twards the earth, fire is hot.

    Theorys (no matter how heavily they are supported) do not become laws.
     
  17. princealfie macrumors 68030

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    I believe in evolution. The Mac will remove most market share from PC world in 5-10 years. There.
     
  18. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Yet somehow the theory that thousands of years ago, some magical man we've never seen, heard, felt or touched waved a magic wand and created everything seems more plausible to you?



    You don't need to prove anything when it's biggest and only competitor is way out in left field and ducking any time the ball comes near.
     
  19. twoodcc macrumors P6

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    i agree here.

    clearly we are different than other animals on this planet. we were put here
     
  20. yg17 macrumors G5

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    I can't even think of any reply to such a horrible argument, so I'll just point to my final comment in my previous post in this thread. Thank you for proving evolution for me
     
  21. twoodcc macrumors P6

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    you can say/believe/make-fun-of/ whatever you want. but think about a human compared to any other animal. there's no comparision

    that's just one little argument. i'm not saying base what you believe on it
     
  22. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    That's not even an argument. All animals are specialised for their environments, we happen to be pretty good at thinking, for instance. A sperm whale can dive to depths of miles in bone-crushing pressures and freezing temperatures, a human can not. There's no comparison.
     
  23. twoodcc macrumors P6

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    i disagree. look at almost any animal, and within that certain animal, they are almost all identical, and predictable. they all do the same thing. the whales you are talking about. they all do the same thing, and they look pretty much the same, with pretty much the same weight and length. (there is a range of course)

    it's different with humans. we are not all the same. far from it. what a human can do is limitless. can't say that about any other animal
     
  24. princealfie macrumors 68030

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    Uh, but humans can utilize technology to go down deeper than more sperm whales. So we can adapt to using the best to score!
     

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