IL GOP County Chairman resigns over email

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    mcrain

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    Personally, I'm not surprised. The tone of the rhetoric from the GOP has devolved from a debate about issues to people calling others names. The GOP seems to think it's ok to call those who disagree with them "socialists," "Commies," whatever. It was only a matter of time before the use of name calling became so common that it became part of the intra-party squabbling.

    I personally hope that the name calling will stop and both parties just focus on the issues.
     
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    Still along ways to go before all these bat***** people are out of government.

    More progress…

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/...er-claiming-government-behind-boston-bombing/
     
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    I just don't get how out in left field some people can get. Its like 2011 all over again when some were trying to suggest that George Bush had helped conspire to get people to drive planes in WTC. I just don't get how people can get to the point where they actually say nonsense like that out loud.

    Much less on the record.
     
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    Please don't compare elected republicans who say stupid things to some random fool sitting on a computer spouting left wing conspiracies. The difference is the GOP elects their nuts.
     
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    With this one down, will two more grow back in its place? (hydra reference)

    Seriously though, how is it that Republicans are even elected to office knowing how crazy they are?
     
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    ugahairydawgs

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    Sigh.....thanks for reminding me why I prefer to stay out of here now.

    Everything is fine, so long as all Republicans share in the blame of every boneheaded thing said by someone with a R next to their name and Democrats are pretty much the paragon of virtue.

    Both parties are equally full of people who say incredibly stupid things and this insinuation to the otherwise wears thin.
     
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    No, but until Republicans join Democrats in not electing the crazy people in your party, then the situation isn't equal. Do you agree with the crazy things that elected Republicans say? I know I don't agree with the crazy things that random unelected democrats say. I'm embarrassed by my elected representatives far less often than it republicans. Do you disagree?
     
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    I am sorry - let's compare it to Obama claiming to not have known anything about Fast and the Furious, or Benghazi, or the IRS harassing certain groups, or...

    You sure are quick to point out when someone claims something that is most likely absurd but don't seem to say anything when the top elected official claims ignorance about every screw up his administration has made... although he was kind enough to take credit for killing Osama... :rolleyes:

    I found this comic to be pretty on point.
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    BOTH parties do stupid crap and name call and make absurd claims. We would be better off with a complete flush of both parties and starting from someone who isn't in it only for the money and power.
     
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    Actually, only one party is making claims about legitimate rape, denying science, and making policy based on religion. But hey, if you want to try to equate the "controversies" in your cartoon to real loony bin comments of elected officials from the GOP, I'm ready.
     
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    ugahairydawgs

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    What other statements are you referring to?
     
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    Really, it's hard to open a newspaper and not see something offensive coming from the GOP lately. Christine O'Donnel? Legitimate rape? Comments about the poor - should they starve? It's constant. The GOP has gotten to a point where you can't get elected unless you regularly use name calling to describe your opponent. The idea of respecting the other side and their ideas has become something to be reviled within the GOP.

    It's sad. It's just sad.
     
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    ugahairydawgs

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    Christine O'Donnell was never elected and Todd Akin had already won the Primary in MO when he stuck his foot in his mouth, and lost as a result of what he said. Are there elected Republicans somewhere saying that the poor should starve?

    And that whole idea of respecting the other side on hot button issues doesn't happen with either party. Taxes, abortion, entitlement spending, guns.....almost all of the rhetoric is in the tone of "us vs them" regardless of which side is talking. That is not a way of trying excuse anyone for anything...only a way of highlighting the fact that its not something likely to change because of the nature of our two party system. Admittedly....that is a sad outlook.
     
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    Yes, there are...

    I have no idea what that link goes to, some wacky site, but they have video.
     
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    ugahairydawgs

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    She had me in the first sentence, not so much in the second.

    Then again, and I would think this is what you'd be hoping for, this is a woman who is not running for re-election because all conventional wisdom said she was going to be on the wrong side of Primary day.
     
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    If it is ok to call democrats socialist for not wanting the poor to starve, what term can we use for republicans who agree with what she said?
     
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    ugahairydawgs

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    You know the issue is more complex than that. And what Republicans were lining up to agree with her sentence about people not working also not eating?
     
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    Barbarians? I personally believe in survival of the fittest. But maybe that is because I am not a worthless person that relies on others for everything. I am also not Republican. I agree with both parties on some things (well what they claim they will do anyway).

    Since when has working for what you get been a "bad" concept to believe in? I don't believe we should be giving assistance to people that don't try and get money/jobs or do anything for society. We don't need to give the mother of 3 kids from 3 different guys $400 a month in food stamps when a full income family of 4 barely spends that buying all name brand and organic crap.
     
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    Where the hell do you live to get food that cheap. I live by myself and I alone spend 60-70 a week on food from the grocery store. So that translate into 240+ a month. Now I do not buy the cheapest stuff nor do I buy organic big name brand only. I also eat more than most but still the 100 per person per month you are insane to think that that is all a family of 4 eat on average.
     
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    FOX news has made it acceptable and FOX will be responsible for the loss of the House, Senate and Presidency in 2016.

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    TBH, it seems that most of the extremist talk back then came from the far right, not the far left...
     
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    Given they were candidates who were put up that is still significantly different from some random left-wing guy making crazy statements.
     
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    ugahairydawgs

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    I guess the random left-wing guy making crazy statements just isn't as motivated. :D
     
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    Parties do usually vet their candidates...

    And you also have to win a primary to be able to become a candidate, so obviously a significant number of Republicans primary voters in their states share their views.
     
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    Well, it looks to me like the Republicans are becoming more and more a party of prejudice, self-righteousness and bitterness. They're rather like the Tories in the UK. Perhaps the moderates will break away and focus on personal liberty rather than enforcing conservative morality. Otherwise, the GOP is doomed.
     
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    The GOP is doomed. If they couldn't win the 2012 election when the economy was in the crapper and Obama wasn't exactly a favorite in this country, they will never win another election.
     
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    The GOP isn't doomed. Both parties are far too entrenched to ever fail completely. They will probably lose the next two or three presidential elections, but eventually the far right "gay is a sin"/etc ideologues will start to die off (often literally).
     

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