iMac G3 video card repair? please help

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  1. slipper macrumors 68000

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    hello everyone, first post here on this wonderful board.

    i have an older iMac G3 350mhz processor with a slot loading CD drive. for the past couple months i have been having problems with the screen flickering different colors and contrast. i asked a friend what it may be and he said its probably a video card however i dont know if this is correct as he is a PC guy. How hard is it to make a Do-It-Myself repair considering that i know nothing about computers? however i definately am mechanically inclined. what video card does this model imac come with and what would be a cheap upgrade?

    i am college student and would like to salvage this computer if possible, it would be hard to afford a new iMac given my budget. your help is much appreciated.
     
  2. Counterfit macrumors G3

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    Upgrade your video card? Not in an iMac my friend, unless you can get your hands on a used logic board.
     
  3. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Could be problems with the CRT electronics, there's some areas with hints on repairs and common part numbers.

    Don't know where I last saw it.

    If it has a VGA out port, you can usually eliminate the video chip as a problem really quick.

    Because if it is the video chip, the computer logic board is dead.
     
  4. slipper thread starter macrumors 68000

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    theres no VGA outputs that i can find so i guess its most likely the logic board? how hard are they to replace? ebay here i come.

    i dont know if this is a corresponding problem but my clock doesnt work, i know for a fact i need to chance the battery.
     
  5. slipper thread starter macrumors 68000

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  6. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Good chance that you'd plug in a new logic board and still have the same problem.

    You can do a search of CRT iMac Repair and come up with a bunch of sites that talk about the CRT electronics going bad.

    Sites like http://www.macopz.com/columns/imacrepair/index.html

    There should be some troubleshooting resources, or ways to check the logic board (since some people remove the board from the machine when the CRT dies).

    But if you want to replace the logic board, before searching more on the iMac common problems.

    I won't stop you.
     
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  8. K12MacTech macrumors member

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    Could be as simple as interference from other things around it. Make sure it isn't near other equipment like speakers, radios, phones, fluorescent lighting, magnets, or other electronic equipment. There was also an issue with the RGB cable that Apple's official position called for an authorized repair person.

    As far as the VGA out, look under the access panel towards the rear of the machine (not the one where the RAM is located). I think most slot-loading iMacs came with a VGA port there.
     
  9. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Underneath a door/panel by the power cord.
     
  10. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    According to the troubleshooting charts...

    No Video or Unstable Raster

    Corrupted PRAM.
    Corrupted system software.
    The PMU chip or logic board needs to be reset.
    Bad video cable connection.
    Bent CRT neck pins.
    Bad power/analog/video board
    Bad logic board
    Bad internal RGB video cable.
    Bad power/analog/video
    Bad CRT.

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    If you want to read the trouble shooting charts, use the darn link in the PM.
     
  11. K12MacTech macrumors member

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    You can also look at this apple article:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=31262

    Not much info for the average user - if you are a service provider it would show more detail, but it does show there was a known issue with those iMacs, and the resolution if you take it to your "Authorized Service Provider" was to replace the screws on the RGB cable.

    In one instance the suggestion to move the iMac actually helped me. The system with the problem was located right next to a microwave oven which caused the interference. I always like to try the simple solutions first.

    You may also find some comments/resolutions if you search the Apple Discussion boards searching with keywords like wavy or flickering display. There was quite a uproar there before Apple admitted there was a problem.
     
  12. slipper thread starter macrumors 68000

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    and what would i be doing with this VGA output? connect it to a different monitor? sorry i and completely unknowledgable with comps.
     
  13. gwuMACaddict macrumors 68040

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    i had an old imac that did this. apple took it in for testing and told me it was the logic board. yuuuck. i'd get all your important info off the hard drive and save the money from the fix and buy something new.
     
  14. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    You want to replace the logic board without doing a simple test, connecting a computer monitor to the iMac's VGA out port, because a PC owner said your video card is bad.

    All I'm saying is iMacs tend to have problems other than a logic board causing wavy video. (ie, that link I left above). Though it was "supposed" to be reengineered on the slot loading machines.

    Use Google to search for sites that tell you how to troubleshoot to a specific board on your iMac. (logic board, down converter board, the power/analog/video board, CRT neck board. or the RGB cable)

    Download the manual from the link I PMd you. That will step you through the troubleshooting chart.

    Though there are people who didn't want to do any of the above, and simply put their iMac logic board in a PC case and used a external monitor. And there are sites for that also.

    But it can be something as simple as choosing the wrong frequency when you changed your screen size to moving something next to your machine (or on the same breaker) causing CRT to go crazy.

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    It may be the logic board, it may not.
     
  15. slipper thread starter macrumors 68000

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    ok well now the screen is completely blank so would that be an indication of the CRT? once in a great while the screen flickers and/or works for a minute or so. well anyways for those who helped, thanks. anyone selling a ibook(not clamshell)? :D :D :D
     
  16. Sheebahawk macrumors member

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    Battery?

    This is a shot in the dark, but I have an imac Dv+ (g3 450) which has been humming with inreasing frequeny lately. the last time I had this problem, my 6100'd moniter needed the battery replaced. Your screen going blaNK makes me think your moniter battery is dead, I have no idea how hard it is to replace on an imac CRT, but a new battery won't be expensive if that is indeed your problem. I really don't know why it needs a battery, or if they even still use batteries :D but I do know that I USED to have to replace it every three or four years or so. hopefully someone who really knows about moniter batteries ould lear this up.
     

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