iMac G5s have BLOWERS not FANS

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  1. Toe macrumors 65816

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    Sorry, this needs to be cleared up. As you can see at the bottom of http://www.apple.com/imac/design.html the new iMac has blowers, not fans.

    Here's a link to describe the difference:
    http://www.electronics-cooling.com/Resources/EC_Articles/MAY96/may96_01.htm

    The blowers in the iMac (and in the Xserve, for that matter) are very carefully placed so that they push air through specific channels. If you look at the inside of the iMac case, you can see how they are channeling the air from particular blowers in particular directions. They cleverly combine convection and directed air to minimize the amount of blowing necessary.

    Anyway... no fans.
     
  2. stoid macrumors 601

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    So the difference between a fan and a blower is that a blower is basically a fan turned on it's side with the blade re-engineered to move the air across it rather than through?

    Makes sense, I don't see a fan that is less than 3/4ths of an inch thick doing much good in my laptop anyway. A blower makes far more sense.
     
  3. tomf87 macrumors 65816

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    Back in the 80's (and I guess earlier) they had new types of "fans" in copier machines. They were called squirrel cage fans. That's what a blower looks like to me: a version of the squirrel cage fan.

    At any rate, who cares what they call it as long as it keeps the G5 cool. And the cooler they keep it, the faster machine they can build.
     
  4. FuzzyBallz macrumors 6502a

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    Blowers are not fans? So what do you think is in the blower that's moving the air? Ham slices? And I suppose you think Mazda's Rotary engine is not a real engine?
     
  5. Toeknee macrumors regular

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    Well this one takes the cake.. a while back my Engineering Professor said that "the new laptop from Apple (the G4 that I have) has 9 fans in it." :eek: Well even though it was early in the morning I quickly rose my hand and said "umm no the computer you're thinking of the the G5 THAT has 9 fans, my Powerbook has 2 blowers in it." He snickered and said "well im pretty sure that the laptop has 9 fans in it." At that point I had lost all respect for that guy because he supposedly worked for IBM a while back.
     
  6. slipper macrumors 68000

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    no its fake
    :D
     
  7. sandman42 macrumors 6502a

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    I have to agree with FuzzyBallz (hmmm... that's not a sentence I would've ever imagined myself saying), this is a pretty shaky semantics issue. Fans, blowers, impellers, propellers, pumps, compressors - these terms get interchanged a lot in various fluid dynamics situations, and there's huge gray areas in their definitions. I, for one, wouldn't get too entrenched on a particular definition, but in this case I see that Apple refers to the components in the G5 iMac as 'blowers', and I can go along with that just fine.

    I just wanted to point out that there's not a really clear differentiation, in general, between a 'fan' and a 'blower'. I bet Apple even refers to the parts in the new iMac as 'fans' somewhere.
     
  8. The Past macrumors 6502

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    Blower: A machine for producing an artificial blast or current
    of air by pressure, as for increasing the draft of a
    furnace, ventilating a building or shaft, cleansing
    gram, etc.

    Fan blower: A wheel with vanes fixed on a rotating shaft
    inclosed in a case or chamber, to create a blast of air
    (fan blast) for forge purposes, or a current for draft and
    ventilation.

    Fan: A device for creating a current of air by movement of a
    surface or surfaces
     
  9. Makosuke macrumors 603

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    Though I agree that it's mostly semantics, and really not worth getting worked up over, there is enough of a difference between the construction and function of your average computer "fan" (in the G5 tower, for example) and the "blowers" in the iMac G5 to be worth making something of a distinction.

    You could just as easily say that they're a specific type of fan, which would be correct, but since that particular type of fan is usually called a blower (the industrial air blowers I work with are certainly sold as such, and function similarly), it works as a simplified distinction.
     
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  12. sethypoo macrumors 68000

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    I second that!

    A fan's a fan, a blower's a blower, a fan is a blower, and a blower is a fan. Who gives a flying f...fan.
     
  13. Phat_Pat macrumors 68000

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    c'mon its still interesting......
     
  14. JRam macrumors member

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    I have a feeling that the people who care are probably the same people who get bugged about confusing MAC with mac.
     
  15. slughead macrumors 68030

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    I know this is true in my case, I found it interesting, AND it bugs me to have to explain what a MAC address every time I use it in a sentence.

    "What's the MAC address of the computer?"
    "785 E. Belmont ... "
    "No I mean... wait, how the hell did you get a job here?!"
    "Well uh ... " *immediately bolts in the other direction*
     
  16. stoid macrumors 601

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    Hehehe, you say tomayto, I say tomahto, you say blower, I say fan. :D
     
  17. Makosuke macrumors 603

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    Hey, there's no harm in a geeky conversation over semantics, so long as you don't take yourself too seriously. It's silly to get worked up if somebody calls the air-moving devices in the new iMac fans, but I'd say it's more specific to call them blowers.

    That said, I reiterate that from a simple technical standpoint, there's a useful distinction between a traditional fan and a blower. It is the reason they're called "leaf blowers" instead of "leaf fans".

    Also check out this kit from Themaltake, which includes both a blower and a fan.

    A fan is, generally speaking, a propeller-style set of blades that spins around and pushes air in one direction. The stream of air isn't very focused, the area from which the air is drawn isn't very focused, and there's a dead area near the center of the fan where the hub is.

    Contrast with a blower which, although it often contains a hamster-wheel-shaped fan mechanism (yes, technically making it a fan), it directs a relatively uniform stream of air out, and can easily draw air from a narrow area.

    Yes, you can make the argument that they're both the same thing, and there's more than one type of each, but you can also loosely define a blower as a type of fan that produces a uniform, directed stream of air, which is the way most people use it. Making every blower a fan, but not every fan a blower.

    Anyway, if I pick up Newark or a simlar industrial supplies catalog, I expect a distinction along these lines when I see the term "blower" in a part's description. That's why they have seperate categories for axial fans and centrifugal blowers, the latter of which is, I believe, what the iMac uses.
     
  18. Chaszmyr macrumors 601

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    The way I see it, blowers contain fans, therefore it's okay to call a blower a fan but not okay to call a fan a blower.

    Then again.. Fans do blow, do they not? :p jk
     
  19. Chaszmyr macrumors 601

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    Shouldn't that be MAC and Mac? :p
     
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  22. Capt Underpants macrumors 68030

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    What's new? ;)
     
  23. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    I care about plenty of things....just not the "difference" between blowers & fans :rolleyes:
     
  24. AmigoMac macrumors 68020

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    I'm a big iMac fan... not a blower :eek:

    Longlive iMac... this thread starts to su*k...
     
  25. alexf macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, let's end it before the sh*t hits the blower. :D
     

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