Individuality

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  1. oldschool macrumors 65816

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    Let's all repeat the nonconformist's code:

    I promise to be different! I promise to be unique! I promise not to repeat things other people say.


    Does anybody know who said this? HINT: He also said that he started smoking because his doctor said he wasn't getting enough tar.
     
  2. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    i promise not to repeat things other people say....

    wait a minute! ;)

    whoever this is, sounds a little bit extreme...
     
  3. trebblekicked macrumors 6502a

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    steve martin.

    wild and crazy guy.

    good album...
     
  4. oldschool thread starter macrumors 65816

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  5. idea_hamster macrumors 65816

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    How did that scene go?

    Brian: "You're all individuals!"
    Crowd: "We are all individuals."
    Guy: "I'm not!"
    Brian: "You've got to think for yourselves!"
    Crowd: "We've got to think for ourselves."
    Guy: "I don't!"
     
  6. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    well, then it roundly condemns you. the vast majority of what anyone says has been said before. your comment is no exception.
     
  7. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    condemns might be a little strong of a word. no?

    i prefer "castrate".

    oh wait
     
  8. oldschool thread starter macrumors 65816

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    What the....WHAT are you talking about???
     
  9. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    i am saying that the quote is extremist. non-conformism exploits people's sense of uniqueness, making it meaningless--when you do things just to be different, you're just conforming to "non-conformism." true uniqueness is found when you do what you want to do because you want to do it, not because everyone else is, or because no one else is, when you say what you mean, not because it's never been said, but because it's how you feel.

    i mean, come on, how can you make a "code" that is intended to be repeated and in it have people say "i promise not to repeat things other people say"?
     
  10. jywv8 macrumors 6502

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    Yah, it's like the old Catch-22 of nihilism. Nihilists don't believe in anything, which is itself a belief in something, and that "something" is "nothing".

    And then there's the whole thing about how choosing not to act is itself an action.

    And so on, ad nauseum.
     
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  12. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    hahaha! that's classic, man. :)
     
  13. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Yeah yeah, I'm the only me there is, unique and all that. Don't worry about the 99.9% matching DNA I share with all the rest of you. No sir, I'm like a snowflake. No two of those alike you know.:D

    Now let me get back to the rat race!
     
  14. Stike macrumors 65816

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    All this modern drift on individuality makes me sick. This is exactly the most important thing companies are today making money with:

    Be special!
    Be extreme!
    Be different!
    Be yourself!
    BLAH BLAH

    Different cellphone cases. Wallpapers. Music styles. Cellphone ring tones and logos. Levi´s. Peer pressure.

    Teens today pay companies to find a way to themselves - by trying to be themselves and nobody else. But while doing that, they just become ONE OF MANY following a style or cult or anything.

    Get real, kids. You are ALWAYS one of many.

    Being unique is an illusion. Resistance is futile.
     
  15. wdlove macrumors P6

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    I believe that I am very much an individual. Believe in the old saying, "that there is nothing new under the sun." I take what I hear and try to express my feelings.
     
  16. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    being unique is no illusion. thinking that uniqueness comes from things you buy or from resisting saying something that's been said is an illusion.

    don't be stupid--just because it's not possible to be totally unique doesn't mean there's no such thing as uniqueness. that's extreme in the other direction.
     
  17. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    wait--are you going to explain the apparent contradiction of the two statements you just made?
     
  18. wdlove macrumors P6

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    I believe that I am unique in my personality. My style is to be a follower instead of a leader. Listen to views and comform. I'm a Mac person instead of a PC person. Everyone remarks that I'm friendly, trustworthy, and reliable.
     
  19. Stike macrumors 65816

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    That´s exactly my point. I bet that there are people living this life and not seeing the illusion... maybe until they are (far?) more mature.
     
  20. jadariv macrumors regular

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    For the people on this board that seem to have to make arguments and take everything so seriously (you know who you are) this was a joke!!!!!

    My brain hurts from all this philosophical jibba-jabba!!!
     
  21. oldschool thread starter macrumors 65816

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    What a thread.

    And all I wanted to know was if other people on here listen to Steve Martin.
     
  22. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    ehh, sorry, didn't get the joke...


    what do you mean, do we listen to steve martin? i've seen a bunch of his movies, but i wasn't aware he had a venue for making regular public commentary...
     
  23. oldschool thread starter macrumors 65816

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    He's a standup COMEDIAN!

    And he's not making philosophical or political comments. Its part of his act.
     
  24. shadowfax macrumors 603

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    even if he was trying to use it in a comic sense, it wasn't funny either, so i don't see what the big deal about that part is..
     
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