Installing Snow Leopard (and Rosetta) into Parallels 7 in Lion

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  1. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I cannot explain why you have this problem: multiple screen resolutions show up in my System Preferences - Displays for both Snow Leopard and Snow Leopard Server.
     

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  2. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Install Snow Leopard Server...

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    Are you using a legitimate, newly acquired from Apple, Mac OS X Snow Leopard Install DVD?
     
  3. shmalzzz macrumors newbie

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    yeah i am, 10.6.3
     
  4. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Alice, do you have access to iChat so that we could "screen share" and I can look at your problem more closely?
     
  5. MichaelGraubart macrumors newbie

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    Disappearing mouse-pointer (cursor)

    I am running a Snow Leopard server in Parallels 8.0 on a Mac mini with OS 10.8.3.

    In the virtual Snow Leopard machine, AppleWorks 6.2.9 text and spreadsheet documents open, but the mouse-pointer or cursor disappears after one click in the writing area. It can be restored by clicking in the screen outside the document, but again disappears after one click within the document.

    This phenomenon has already been reported in connection with Adobe Photoshop CS2. Curiously, I have not met it in that context, but it makes working in my old AppleWorks documents almost impossible. It has not been reported in real Snow Leopard machines, so it it seems to be a parallels problem, not a Mac one.

    I have posted about it in the Parallels forum and await developments. But your reference ther, MichaelLAX, to PinPoint, which is a very cheap little application that one can get from the Apple Store, has been a godsend! You say in the Parallels forum that it is of limited use because it replaces the Mac's mouse-pointer by a large virtual object. That is true in a draw or paint document (although in PinPoint one has a huge choice of different cursors, and one of them is an admittedly screen-filling pair of cross-hairs), but in text or spreadsheet documents one can choose an appropriately-shaped cursor (it is worth experimenting), set size to minimum and transparency
    to a high value, and I find that I can work with this as easily and conveniently as with an Apple arrow-pointer.

    I have also posted this information in the Apple Discussions.
     
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    Parallels Forum: disappearing cursor

    UPDATE: I found it in the Parallels Forum.
     
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  9. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    WOW: what a great intellectual challenge you have made for yourself: "Let's see how much of my (valueless, I guess) time I can waste in an effort to save the $20 it would cost me to just pick up the phone, call 800-MY-APPLE and order the "fresh copy of the Snow Leopard Installation DVD" that is called for in the installation instructions!

    Please keep me posted on your lack of progress...

    Attitude courtesy of the fact that I DO value MY time!
     
  10. davidmorr macrumors newbie

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    How practical is it?

    I have been running Snow Leopard Server under VMware for over 12 months now. It does work, but it is hardly a pleasant experience. I am doing it because I prefer to use Eudora as my mail client.

    What I find with VMware is a number of irritating faults. Many things just do not work. Some of the problems I am seeing are:

    * Images opened in Preview show empty windows.
    * No audio
    * Shared folders does not work - it is just a snapshot and you have to reboot to get it updated
    * Cannot drag and drop files into or out of the virtual machine window
    * There is no way to get the VM to use Safari or other apps on the host machine. It insists on using the ones in the VM.
    * Similarly, there is no way to get the host to use Eudora for mailto:

    I have also tried Parallels 8 briefly, but it has an even more serious problem: whenever the cursor goes over a mailbox window, it disappears. You have no idea where it is. Other Eudora windows are fine. I gather some other apps have the same problem with Parallels and Snow Leopard.

    I spent some time with Parallels support over this but they have not come back with a solution. :-(

    I was just wondering if anyone had a solution to the disappearing cursor problem, and what other gotchas there are using Snow Leopard in Parallels?
     
  11. MichaelGraubart macrumors newbie

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    I recently upgraded from a PPC Mac with Tiger to an Intel one with Mountain Lion, and have started running Snow Leopard Server within Parallels 8, mainly so that I can access all sorts of AppleWorks spreadsheets and other documents and because I can't afford to upgrade to the current version of Photoshop and want to be able to use CS2 (which is available as a free update at Adobe). Not being very expert as far as virtual machines are concerned, I am still struggling with problems of using or transferring files and applications between the host and virtual environments. But a few days ago I posted a remark in this forum about the 'missing cursor' problem, which at first made using and modifying complex spreadsheets, draw documents, etc., almost impossible in the virtual environment. My solution (based on an earlier remark by MichaelLAX) is to use PinPoint. This is the relevant part of my earlier post:

    'PinPoint, which is a very cheap little application that one can get from the Apple Store, has been a godsend! You [this was addressed to MichaelLAX] say in the Parallels forum that it is of limited use because it replaces the Mac's mouse-pointer by a large virtual object. That is true in a draw or paint document (although in PinPoint one has a huge choice of different cursors, and one of them is an admittedly screen-filling pair of cross-hairs), but in text or spreadsheet documents one can choose an appropriately-shaped cursor (it is worth experimenting), set size to minimum and transparency
    to a high value, and I find that I can work with this as easily and conveniently as with an Apple arrow-pointer.'
     
  12. davidmorr macrumors newbie

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    I have now tried Pinpoint. For everything but the full screen crosshairs, I get a dark grey box enclosing the new cursor. The box is so dark that I cannot read anything underneath it. Making it more transparent helps, but also makes the new cursor less visible.....

    I contacted the author. He says it is something to do with Parallels. Not surprising since Parallels is doing something that causes the cursor to disappear in the first place.

    I did try installing Pinpoint on the host computer (OS X 10.8) and it carries over onto the Parallels virtual machine. However, it does mean that you also have it on the host, where it really is a bit of a nuisance.

    I think I will stick to VMware for the time being. For all its faults, it does at least draw the cursor properly.
     
  13. Patth9, May 15, 2013
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    May have messed it all up

    I'm still trying to install SLS into Parallels 8 on Mt.Lion. I've replaced 4 to10 in Step one of MichaelLAX's instructions with gilby101's 4-10 in Step One for Parallels 8 on Mt. Lion. I feel like an inch worm, but I'm not giving up.

    Would someone please explain the #9 instructions for me listed below?

    9. Create a new DVD/CD master disk image ’SuperDrive- Server.cdr’ which is the same as SuperDrive.cdr, but with the change included.

    hdiutil convert -format UDTO -o SuperDrive- Server.cdr SuperDrive.cdr -shadow

    The only place I ran across "new DVD/CD Master was when I was in Disk Utility, but there were no directions telling me to reopen Disc Utility.

    I know I'm to paste hdiutil convert -format UDTO -o SuperDrive- Server.cdr SuperDrive.cdr -shadow into the terminal, but just not sure how to handle the " New DVD/CD" part.

    Patt

    I finally figured out that the directions were confusing me. It might have been more clear had it read:

    9. The following code preforms this action: 9. Create a new DVD/CD master disk image

    I'm very literal and visual, others most likely had no problem. But, I'm also determined, and now that I understand, I can move forward. BTW, I have succeeded in completing my task of Mt/SLS/Par.
     
  14. MichaelLAX, May 18, 2013
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    Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels 10 - complete step-by-step instructions

    Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels 10:

    BE SURE TO UPGRADE PARALLELS 10 TO ITS MOST CURRENT VERSION - Which as of the date of this revision of this post is: Build 10.1.3 (Revision 28868).

    Apple is now selling Snow Leopard Server for $19.99 + sales tax & shipping costs at 1.800.MYAPPLE (1.800.692.7753) - Apple Part Number: MC588Z/A (telephone orders only).

    Step 1: Launch Parallels 10, go to File... New... Enter your OS X system password if requested.

    Step 2: On the next screen (Parallels Wizard), click on "Install Windows or another OS from DVD or image file" [see image at the bottom of this post] and then click on Continue.

    Step 3: Insert a new, freshly acquired from Apple, Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server Install DVD into your optical drive and be sure that "Install from" has the name Mac OS X Server Install Disc selected [see image at the bottom of this post]. Then click Continue.

    Step 4: Give the "Name" something more specific. I like "Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server" and click Continue. You do not have to check the box "Customize settings before installation."

    Step 5: Parallels should now commence the process of installing Snow Leopard Server into a file that will be named Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server.pvm and will be located at ~/Documents/Parallels/. This process will take up to five or ten minutes.

    Step 6: You will then be presented with the normal "Mac OS X Server" installation screens, such as:

    A. "Use English for the main language" -- Click on blue Right Arrow.

    B. "To set up the installation of Snow Leopard Server, click Continue" -- Click on Continue.

    C. Click Agree on the Software License Agreement for Mac OS X Server.

    D. Select the Macintosh HD as the disk where you want to install Mac OS X Server. You do NOT have to click on Customize, as Rosetta is selected to install by default in SLS. However, if you want to also install Quicktime 7, then click on Customize, check the box for QuickTime 7 and OK. Then click Install. This Installing process will take 30 - 60 minutes, so go enjoy a cup of coffee!

    E. At the completion of the install, either the System will restart itself or click Restart. You will be taken to the Welcome screen

    F. Select your country and Click Continue. Select your keyboard and Click Continue.

    G. Enter your Product Serial Number from the insert contained in your fresh, newly purchased from Apple Snow Leopard Server box, Enter your name (and optionally your Organization) and Click Continue.

    H. Click Set up a new server and Click Continue. Enter your Registration information and Click Continue. Answer the Few More Questions and Click Continue. Enter your Time Zone and Click Continue.

    I. Give your Administrator Account a Name: I like to use "Snow Leopard Server" and the short name will automatically be "snowleopardserver". I like to use an easy to remember password of "password" with the Hint: "It is what it is!" but feel free to use your own password that YOU WILL REMEMBER! - uncheck the two boxes and Click Continue.

    J. The Network settings should be picked up automatically from your Host Mac; Click on Continue.

    K. Network Names: Give it a Primary DNS Name and Computer Name such as sls.private and Click on Continue.

    L. Users and Groups - Click on Create Users and Groups and Click Continue.

    M. Services - either keep checked ALL of these options or deselect those not needed. I just kept File Sharing checked to keep overhead lowest. ...and Click Continue.

    N. In Client Backup, I deselected Allow Users to Backup to this Server; and Click Continue.

    O. In the Review screen, Click Set Up (or Go Back if you want to change any options before you Set Up). It will take a few minutes while your Server is Setting Up and then Click Go! The system should reboot and take you to your Mac OS X Snow Leopard Server Desktop!

    P. You have now successfully installed and configured Snow Leopard Server and should now proceed to complete the Parallels installation.

    Step 7: Eject the Snow Leopard Server Install icon from your Desktop, so that the DVD ejects from your optical drive. In Finder, in the Finder Menu, go to Preferences and check the boxes for Hard Disks and Connected Servers: your Macintosh HD should now appear.

    Step 8: Under the Apple Menu, go to Software Update. Install all items suggested and click Restart to commence the update process. After they are successfully installed, the Restart will continue and the Desktop will reappear after another login of your Snow Leopard Server Name and Password. Continue this process to do another Software Update, Restart when necessary, until you are told that: "Your software is up to date" at which point you will have completely upgraded to 10.6.8.

    Step 9: Install Parallels Tools from the Actions menu in Snow Leopard Server (Parallels Menu). Then on the following Dialog Box, click Continue to connect the Parallels Tools installation CD to this virtual machine. Double click open the Parallels Tools icon and double click Install. Enter your snowleopardserver password when requested.

    When Installing Parallels Tools is 100% complete, click the Restart button to finish the Parallels Tools installation. Enter your Name and Password when requested. When the Desktop returns, eject Parallels Tools. A Shared Folders folder should now appear.

    Step 10: If you want to avoid having to log in at each Startup or Restart, go to System Preferences, Accounts, click on the padlock at the bottom left, enter your SLS password, click on Login Options, Change Automatic Login from Off to the name of your SLS account, enter your SLS password and click on the padlock.

    While in System Preferences, I also like to go to Date & Time, Clock and check Display the time with seconds, so that you can always see from the changing seconds if SLS has frozen (which rarely has happened to me).

    For less confusion from using Snow Leopard client, I suggest that you remove the following Server apps from the Dock: Server Preferences, Server Admin, Workgroup Manager, Podcast Composer, Screen Sharing, System Image Utility, and Terminal.

    Your installation of Snow Leopard Server into Parallels 10 is now complete!

    For historical purposes, the original post on the instructions for Parallels 8 can be found here.

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  15. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Hello!

    For some reason I did not get an email alert that there was a new post here on this thread, so I apologize for the delay!

    Patt: You do NOT need to follow these instructions for the installation of Snow Leopard SERVER, on for the client version.

    Parallels will ACCEPT the installation of SLS without any of the "shoe-horning" steps that I use in the first post on this thread. Here are the steps to follow in Parallels 8.

    Just follow the steps I have outlined in the post just above this one.
     
  16. Patth9 macrumors regular

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    Succeeded, but not without an odd/funny happening.

    Well, I never got your reply either. Too LATE, I've already succeeded.

    The following is a rather odd experience. It might make you laugh.

    I feel I have to quickly type this down before I forget how it happened.

    I successfully, and with limited knowledge, installed Parallels 8 on top of Mt. Lion, and Server Snow Leopard on top of Parallels 8. Still don't know how I did it, but I think divine intervention had something to do with it. I followed MichaelLAX guidlines on Macrumors aided by an up date for MT Lion and Parallels 8 by gilby101.

    Several days later now, this is what I found out today, totally by accident. I was on Server Snow Leopard desktop. My curser was up in the top right hand corner, no reason, it was just there. I don't remember if I clicked or not, but suddenly the SLS desktop grew to monitor size; I could see two Docks, one on the left for SLS and on the right for Mt. Lion. I saw all the HD partitions I had made from my one large 1TB hard drive. I could use the applications I had down loaded on SLS (Eudora/Appleworks) and the ones that came with MT. L without changing screens. This was so NEAT. I had no idea how this happened.

    In an attempt to figure out how this happened, I restarted the Mac. I noticed a flash of two words during the apple SLS's loading, but couldn't read them. I ask my husband to come in and help me catch what it said. About 4 restarts later, I managed to do a print screen and catch the words. It read "Enter Coherence". No idea what that was, nor where it came from. Being the curious gal that I am, I eventually found the option on the Parallels Desktop under the option "View", HA! I thought, that's really neat. Then I did something, that took me two hour to work my way out of. I though, "Wonder what Enter Full Screen does?" Well, don't ever pick this option!! I could not get back to the Coherence option, no matter how many times I restarted, held down the C key, unplugged the Mac, or stood on my head. The Mac booted up in SLS every time, did not have the option to change viewing, could only see SLS. Then, it happened again (after two hours). My curser was in the upper right hand corner of the monitor, and it clicked me back into "Enter Coherence". I'm pretty sure I clicked; it was happening really fast. I'm a happy camper, and I plan not to visit the "FULL VIEW" option again.

    I know I'm wordy, but since I didn't need help, I thought you might get a laugh out of my adventures, and maybe, just maybe, someone might know how this happened. :confused:

    Patt
     
  17. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    WOW: Coherence works! Congratulations for giving us all this gift!

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  20. Envarch macrumors newbie

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    VMWare Fusion 5, Snow Leopard Server, 2012 Mac Mini with Mountain Lion

    First, thanks to MichaelLAX and everyone who contributed to this thread. Since I benefited so much from the information, I thought I would register and post my experience. Recently replaced a PPC iMac running Leopard with the system referenced, and, because I was no longer the leading edge power user of my youth, was caught off guard when I found my trusty software no longer worked. Although in recent years I use Office extensively, I still relied on Appleworks, Canvas and the successor to DenebaCad, DCAD Vectorspace for routine workflow. The latter is an awesomely simple yet powerful CAD program that has some notoriety outside the US.

    After reading so many stories of struggles and issues, I took this course: ordered the SLS software for 19.95 and installed VMWard Fusion 5 demo. Made a CDR file of SLS with Disk Utility on my Macbook pro and installed to a virtual machine following the on-screen directions. Only allocated 1Gb of memory. Installed VMWare tools. All the server functions are simply turned off in preferences. Long story short, everything works. No issues, really. Shared my Documents folder in ML and no issues accessing data between SLS and ML. It just works. My printers work. Even a large format printer that currently has no ML driver works with SL in the virtual machine. BTW, saved the SLS CDR image to a mac formatted usb drive, worked flawlessly.

    The only minor issue I had was running DCAD Vectorspace: when setting a black background like us architects like to do, the native crosshair cursor did not turn from black to white as would be normal on a native machine. Got the demo of PinPoint from the developer's website and problem fixed. Easy to toggle PinPoint on and off as there are no problems with Appleworks or anything else as has been reported with Parallels 8. Bought licenses for both Fusion and Pinpoint, producing work, earning a living and no more fiddling, which is what zen and Apple is all about.

    Frankly, the decision on VMWare was simple. Been fiddling with Parellels issues, upgrades and resultant issues for years to run Quickbooks Pro on the bookkeeper's workstation. With the cost of Fusion at 1/2, it was worth trying.

    All that said, this thread was worth the time spent to find pertinent information. Thanks again! I may be adventurous enough to try Sheepshaver one of these days. Been thinking about it for several years. I still have a 1992 Powermac (with a spare in storage) running a relational database on system 7. Once or twice a year I have to access that data. Takes up a lot of space just sitting there! Anyone remember Interlace? I swear, a golden age of software development. Bought by Borland, rebranded Reflex+, one major upgrade and, like Canvas, abandoned. Nothing close to the power vs. the simplicity for amateurs to this day.

    JM
     
  21. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Congratulations and thanks for sharing your experiences with us!

    Remember, VMWare Fusion should install SLS without any of the fancy steps outlined in Post #1 for Snow Leopard client.

    I actually use Virtual ][ to emulate the Apple //e when I needed to access some Home Accountant and Time is Money files from the 80's!

    My database needs were satisfied by Overvue and then Panorama. I never really needed the relationational power of Reflex; although I did play around with Filemaker 5 and 7.
     
  22. shmalzzz macrumors newbie

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    Sorry for the late reply. No I don't have iChat, sorry. I've also tried to reinstall it and I still have the same problem.. do you have any suggestions about what I can do?
     
  23. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    You have to link me back to your original post or repeat your problem and symptoms.
     
  24. consultmac macrumors newbie

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    I am confused.
    I recently got a MacMini w/10.8.3 and installed Parallels 8 that I acquired a few months ago BEFORE realizing that I couldn't install it on my CoreDuo iMac. I'm happy with Mountain Lion except the difficulty I have with getting Adobe products to work. Therefore I'm interested in getting SL client working in Parallels. I have a computer-agnostic installer and I followed all the steps from this thread (including the exceptional ones for use with Mountain Lion instead of Lion) up to the point where I was stopped... I can't even get to the point of defining users... The 30-minute install was OK; it rebooted and then Parallels informs me that SL is not supported and will not continue. Am I sunk?


     
  25. MichaelLAX thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Why not install Snow Leopard Server, which is installed more easily and is not prone to the corruption that effect Snow Leopard client if the environment is improperly shut down?
     

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