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Intel Preparing to Launch New Xeon Processors for Potential Mac Pro Upgrade
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Never in my life have I heard of a PC gamer who didn't build his own system, or order one pre-assembled to his specs. And since gaming PC = windows PC, why would you want to pay the Apple tax and then suffer the sub-par bootcamp drivers?
I have a feeling there's a reason Apple has been silent on Mac Mini. I wouldn't be surprised if we get something new in that space beyond just a spec bump. Apple easily could have released a spec bumped Mac mini by now.
No.
Just....no.
Protip: Anything that requires more than a typical consumer knowledge base to set up, by definition, does not have a market considered anywhere near "BIG" enough for a consumer driven company to invest in.
That's what I'm hoping. It would be a nice effort if Apple kept "hobbyist" model for us tinkerers thrown out of last years MP party.
IF they will use Nvidia Maxwell GPU's rather than AMD ones, which seems very likely, They will not have to tune them down a bit.
GTX870 - desktop part has TDP around 130W. If you have 450W power supply, you can stack TWO GTX880's, because they will have 150W TDP at 28 nm.
If Nvidia will release 20 nm the power of those chips will go up, and TDP will go down.
Lets give a big "creamy eyes" to Apple for use the Maxwell parts instead of AMD ones.
That's great. It doesn't matter in terms of profitability. The mac is less than 30% of the company, plugging these niche holes so a few thousand people don't go through the effort of Hackintoshing is entirely pointless to Apple's strategy.
Mac Pro is wayyyyyy more important than the iPhone (hobby iToy). Come on! The Personal Computer is what Apple is about! So don't delay, roll out the updates ASAP!
They aren't delaying, Intel doesn't even launch the chips for another month meaning if Apple is implementing them, they should be on the assembly lines shortly if they've gained early access as they have in the past.
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Again great. This is the technology world, filling that ludicrous niche when macs fill 90% of the consumer needs already is just pointless.
There are plenty of holes in the Apple lineup. There's no current-gen < 4" phone, no current-gen Mac Mini, no tablet larger than 10", no phone larger than 4", no low-end display, no low-end tower, no gaming-spec'd rig, no digital camera, no home theater, no...
...oh, right. Apple doesn't need to compete in every tech space, simply the ones they feel are most profitable for their business model. Let things like Modbook and hackintosh machines fill the small gaps.
Apple is selling the next generation of the PC, that being the iPad and the iPhone. The desktop is an old trucking dinosaur. But as Jobs said, there will always be a need for trucks, no matter how niche they become, and that's the same for desktops.
koyoot, you realize that there is quite a difference between a workstation card and a desktop card, right? Namely much, much higher dual-precision floating point calculation capabilities, wider memory busses, more stream processors, ...? Their Quadro or Tesla cards are a much better match to these FirePros used depending on vertical, however where the FirePro succeeds is that it works well whether it is being used for Video Production or Simulation, versus the Quadro which is excels at Video but doesn't do great at Simulation due to reduced Stream processors and a redesigned processing workflow, and the Teslas that aren't *great* at video but are amazing at running a CFD model!
Because of this distinction, the FirePro was actually a really good choice since it is a really good "general purpose" workstation card as opposed to needing to educate those purchasing the computer beforehand on "what are you going to use the computer for?" and helping them to choose the right card for them from Nvidia's lineup.
Because of this distinction, the FirePro was actually a really good choice since it is a really good "general purpose" workstation card as opposed to needing to educate those purchasing the computer beforehand on "what are you going to use the computer for?" and helping them to choose the right card for them from Nvidia's lineup.
That "hole" you are describing is the headless, expandable, user-upgradable mid-level desktop machine. I know exactly what you are talking about. Something along the lines of a Power Macintosh 7000 series machine.
In other words, a dying paradigm that consumers have little interest in.
What computer nerds need to understand (and I'm one of them) is that nerd needs != consumer needs.
Ask that question to Apple, when they used desktop parts, and FLASHED them to FirePro GPU's.
Second thing. ALL Workstation GPU's are DEsktop parts, with different flashes, and ECC Memory. ECC Memory for GPUs is not available for Mac Pro, even, if they are considered FirePro Workstation GPU's. Guess, why they are not ECC?
Because the GPU itself is only flashed Radeon HD. And with different Drivers.
That is all the difference between Workstation and Desktop parts, today.
Edit. Times has changed. Check about Maxwell GPU's. They are pretty damn good GPU's for "general" purpose.