Internet Sales Tax

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by oldhifi, Apr 23, 2013.

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    George Harrison Taxman Lyrics
    Songwriters: HARRISON, GEORGE

    Let me tell you how it will be
    Theres one for you, nineteen for me
    cause Im the taxman
    Yeah, Im the taxman

    Should five percent appear too small
    Be thankful I dont take it all
    cause Im the taxman
    Yeah, Im the taxman

    (if you drive a car car) Ill tax the street
    (if you try to sit sit) Ill tax your seat
    (if you get too cold cold) Ill tax the heat
    (if you take a walk walk) Ill tax your feet

    Taxman!

    cause Im the taxman
    Yeah, Im the taxman

    Dont ask me what I want it for
    (ah, ah, mr. major)
    If you dont want to pay some more
    (ah, ah, mr. [..])
    cause Im the taxman
    Yeah, Im the taxman

    If I reduce it, can you sleep
    (ah, ah, boris yeltzin)
    Get back [..] v.a.t.
    (ah, ah, mr. bush)
    cause Im the taxman
    Yeah, Im the taxman

    If you get a hat hat, Ill tax your hat
    If you get a cat cat, Ill tax your cat
    If you wipe your feet feet, Ill tax your mat
    If you walk away away, Ill tax your [..]

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    (taxman!)
    Declare the pennies on your eyes
    (taxman!)
    cause Im the taxman
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    And youre working for no one, but me
    (taxman!)

    Yes, Im the taxman
    Yeah, Im the taxman
     
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    Perhaps I'm being excessively picky, but your Title implies a tax on use of the internet, rather than requiring online vendors to collect State sales tax on all purchases, whether the vendor has a "physical presence" in the State or not.

    The Syntactical Pedant Strikes Again!!:eek:

    :D
     
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    Well I do get taxed on that too. I get taxed on my iPhone data plan and on my Time Warner internet bill as well.
     
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    True...but I was not under the impression that was the theme of the thread.

    The article linked by OP addressed the collection of sales tax by online vendors.

    Nonetheless...point taken...:D
     
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    Actually, I'm surprised that it has taken them so long to make this move.
     
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    Agreed, OP should change the title to something that suggests "collection of sales tax by online vendors".
     
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    If tax is collected on physical sales in your state then why should online sales be exempt just because the seller is in another state?
     
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    As someone who hates the government's attempted grabs at additional income taxes.....I have absolutely no problem with this. Level the playing field so that online and B&M vendors have to play by the same rules and let taxes on consumption of goods be the driving financial resource for local government.
     
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    When I was in NY it was hard to find online vendors that don't collect taxes, but when you buy things online often there is a shipping charge as well and I think that was an excuse for some, taxes always seem to go up so consumers are always looking for a way to avoid them. Why do they need to raise taxes all the time. What percentage of my income do they need to take to do what they have to do?
     
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    Well, this isn't really a raise in taxes. It's enforcing a flimsy tax that is already in place, according to the article:

     
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    I understand that, I probably wasn't clear.

    Where I live it wasn't long ago taxes were 6%, then they went to 7%, then 8%, Now it's 8.5%.

    What percentage does the state need to take from me to do the same things they were doing with less percentage before.

    So I understand people trying to avoid these tax increases by turning to the internet.

    That's just sales tax, when I make money at my job, we have the state and the federal government taking their cut, then when I buy something they take another cut. Then twice a year I pay my property and school taxes, which is more than 10% of my income.
     
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    I support an internet sales tax.

    I've purchased many items online and avoided the sales tax I would normally pay.

    I would like to see this loophole amended.
     
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    Why not just, oh idk, mail the government a check for the tax money you would have owed?
     
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    Because he would be singling himself out, while many others would not do the same thing, which would put him at an unfair "disadvantage".
     
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    If you think it's a moral thing to pay the taxes, then why does it matter if other people are acting immorally?
     
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    "A check? I thought you needed money" -Bill Engval

    You beat me to it, I was looking for the address. You can mail a check to the treasury, or I am sure your state has an address too.

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    Well he wants to give money to the government to blow it, others know the government will just blow it so we try to avoid over taxation.
     
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    Every dollar someone else doesn't pay in taxes that they otherwise owe, is a dollar you have to pay to make up for it.
     
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    I live in Oregon and we don't pay a sales tax.
     
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    What is the primary source of Oregon's income?

    I live in Texas (no income tax, 8.5% sales tax, relatively high property tax) and a while back the State had all ready gotten it's hooks into Amazon.com's transactions here. Ultimately States have to grab income where they can.

    My wife seemed to think this would hurt Amazon. I don't think so. Amazon has much less overhead than say a Best Buy and consequently still has better deals a click away instead of driving all around town looking for deals. One great example are cables for electronics. BB is a rip off for this type of product. You can also do better for phone cases online.
     
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    You realise that the Beatles were taxed at a marginal rate of 95%. This is the key quote.

    And yet even with a 95% tax rate they still kept on creating music :p.
     
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    Oregon = income tax
    Washington = no income tax, 9.5 sales tax & high property tax (Plus, iTunes and Amazon already charge tax here).

    Ultimately, this is simply enforcing state sales taxes that already exist and should already be paid for by the consumer. This isn't a federal sales tax on internet sales (though I'm sure the federal government would love to start charging one).

    Amazon originally opposed this bill, but now supports it. I'm sure they've done the math and figured out that opening new warehouses in more states will make them more money than the sales lost from people who won't use Amazon because they're charged sales tax.

    It adds a small burden on internet retailers, but 1) I'm sure that payment processing services will be the ones figuring out how much tax to collect and 2) collecting and paying sales tax is simply a cost of doing business.
     
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    Most states actually have that in the form of "use tax" which is basically the same thing as sales tax if it is not collected by the seller. I don't think sales tax is the greatest way of assessing taxes, but it should at least be consistent.
     
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    It is a deductable cost of doing business. Plus, there are companies like Amazon that have been the subject of all sorts of litigation from states seeking to collect sales/use taxes that are owed, that have created proprietary means of complying with the various state laws.

    So, in a strange way, as has always been the case, regulatory enforcement fosters business.
     

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