iOS 5.1 Adds '4G' Indicator to iPhone 4S Status Bar for AT&T HSPA+ Coverage

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Last October, an internal AT&T talking point claimed that the carrier was working with Apple to have the iPhone 4S status bar display a "4G" indicator when the device is connected to an HSPA+ network.

    With today's release of iOS 5.1, that change now appears to have gone into effect as shown in a photo posted to Twitter by @ichadman.


    While short of the data speeds seen with LTE networks now rolling out, AT&T and other carriers have also referred to their HSPA+ networks using 4G as a marketing terms to distinguish the standard's faster performance relative to older 3G standards.

    Article Link: iOS 5.1 Adds '4G' Indicator to iPhone 4S Status Bar for AT&T HSPA+ Coverage
  2. macrumors 68020

    Bill Gates

    Jun 21, 2006
  3. macrumors 603

    Sep 19, 2003
  4. macrumors member


    Aug 11, 2006
    SF Bay Area
    it said 3G previously.
  5. macrumors member

    Jul 11, 2010
    That's a shame. When this news first broke back in November or so and then nothing came of it, I thought it was because Apple told AT&T to go stuff it with their non-4G 4G-in-name-only marketing. Ah, well...
  6. macrumors 65816


    Aug 6, 2008
    St. Louis
    When I got my 4S, my download speeds were hitting ~10 Mbps. That's way faster than any 3G connection I've used.

    T-Mobile has been calling HSPA+ "4G" for a while now. Now AT&T does as well.
  7. macrumors member


    Jun 6, 2010
    San Francisco, CA
    HSPA+ is 4G (enough). At least until the next iPhone. I'm glad to finally have some indicator telling me when I have HSPA+ and when I don't.

    So turns out I have '4G' from the cell towers near my house. Yay!
  8. macrumors 68020

    Aug 29, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
  9. macrumors 68000


    Jul 27, 2003
    Whatever. I didn't even notice it until I saw it here.
  10. macrumors 68020

    Aug 28, 2009
    It isn't 4G at all. Not anywhere close. If it said H+ then I'd be happy. AT&T calling it 4G is just pure marketing BS.
  11. macrumors newbie

    Jun 19, 2011
    Lakeland, Fl
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    Some people are never happy...
  12. macrumors member

    Feb 21, 2010
    guys, what's the gorgeous wallpaper on the screenshot? can anybody share it please? i would be really grateful!
  13. macrumors 65816

    Jun 15, 2010
    It is in line with the other carriers though. It probably confuses customers that Sprint's '4G' service is slower than AT&T's '3G' service.
  14. macrumors regular

    Jul 1, 2010
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    The ITU disagrees with you.
  15. macrumors member

    Apr 19, 2008
    would Rogers, telus, bell do this? they are all HSPA+ aswell i believe
  16. macrumors 65816


    Sep 27, 2006
    United States
    HSPA+ does NOT = 4G! :mad:

    The status bar should simply display 3G+ when it is HSPA+!!!!
  17. macrumors newbie

    Mar 7, 2012
    While HSPA+ is certainly not 4G nor is LTE. HSPA+ is faster on paper than LTE, so if you call LTE 4G you might as well call HSPA+ 4G.

    LTE Advanced is the only spec that meets the definition of 4G, however that isn't out yet.
  18. macrumors 68020

    Aug 28, 2009
    after redefining their spec (downwards) twice!
    (how many carriers are members?). HSPA+ is a development of UMTS HSDPA It really is 3.5G
  19. Huracan, Mar 7, 2012
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2012

    macrumors 6502


    Jan 9, 2007
    I'm taking back my comments. I thought regular 4G LTE as in Verizon and AT&T was considered 4G. Basically the entire industry seems to have jumped the gun. I guess then that LTE advanced should be called 5G ;)

    However, there are many advantages to LTE over HSPA+ beyond the download/upload speeds (e.g. latency) that puts LTE in a different category than HSPA+.
  20. macrumors regular

    Jul 27, 2010
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    I got a large soda from a restaurant recently. It was half the size of the large I get at the movie theater. I'm so mad. That restaurant should not be allowed to call their large soda "large". Venti maybe, or Grande, but not Large.
  21. macrumors 601

    Anonymous Freak

    Dec 12, 2002
    "4G" is a marketing term. Pure and simple. The ITU issues recommendations on communication standards, but they have no "power" to enforce marketing terms.

    However, one of their key requirements is 100 Mbps maximum throughput. HSPA+ has a maximum throughput of 168 Mbps, obviously well above the "minimum maximum" for "4G" classification. (Not that you're ever going to get it. The fastest HSPA+ I've ever gotten was about 20 Mbps.)
  22. macrumors 6502

    Jun 6, 2007
    As one of the millions of Americans who live in rural areas and will not see real LTE for YEARS (2014-2015 at earliest most likely as we still have a lot of EDGE coverage) I like the change.

    Deployment of HSPA+ is widespread where we used to just have regular 3G. I frequently see 5mb/sec+ with my iPhone 4S and it is a big step forward from before. Much faster than Verizon and likely the closest thing we will see to anything close to real 4G until the iPad 5 is out.

    So I'm glad I can tell now when I'm on HSPA+ versus regular versus EDGE. Bravo Apple!
  23. macrumors 6502a


    Mar 2, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Should've called it 3G+ IMO for HSPA+. And LTE as 4G.

    I wonder if it's going to say 4G on AT&T iPads regardless of using HSPA+ or LTE.
  24. macrumors 6502

    Dec 8, 2011
    Melbourne, Australia
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    The proper 4G logo on the iPad 3 actually says "LTE".
  25. macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    Just finished upgrading my phone to 4G. Wicked fast now

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