iPad iPad 4 - Why didn't they redesign it?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by iSensei, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. macrumors regular

    Nov 25, 2012
    Let's go back in time.

    September: New iPhone. Iphone 5. Completely redesigned, thinner, lighter brand new lightning charger port, polished aluminum bezel etc. etc. etc.

    Oct ~ Nov: iPad Mini. Thin, light, polished bezel, lightning port.
    iPad 4. Same old, heavy and bulky design as iPad 2, brand new lightning port and a faster processor.

    My question is since they had time to redesign the iPhone and create the iPad Mini, why couldn't they redesign the iPad 4?

    Yeah, I'm sure they'll redesign it in 2013, making it lighter, thinner etc. but they could have done it with the iPad 4. It sucks thinking my $100 Logitech Ultrathin Keyboard Cover will become obsolete as well as my iSkin $100 folio case.

    I'm pretty sure they have designs laid out for the next 10 years but each year they slowly implement something "new" to justify the "new" in the "new iPad" :rolleyes: and brainwash the masses with how great the "new" device is and mention nothing good about the old one except praising how good the new is compared to the old model.
  2. macrumors 68000


    Nov 15, 2012
    Did they really need to redesign it-
    It was almost a silent bump, not anything major.
    Also, the iPad Mini was not redesigned, it is a new product.
  3. thread starter macrumors regular

    Nov 25, 2012
    I know it was a new product...but ultimately...the full size iPad will be redesigned but again not in time.
  4. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 20, 2010
    The design is fine the way it is. Why change it?
  5. macrumors 6502a

    Apr 14, 2010
    It seems obvious that the iPad 4 was merely a necessary spec bump to stay uniform with the Lightning switch and to offer a more compelling product for the holiday season. Several people I spoke to were hesitant to ever buy the 3rd Gen because of the fact that it wasn't a substantial performance increase over the iPad 2. In hindsight, there's no denying that the A5X was only meant as a stopgap.

    Yes it does suck that your accessories designed for the 2/3/4th Gen will likely be physically incompatible with the 5th generation. However, there will likely be newer more impressive peripheals available by that time.

    P.S. I just picked up the same Logitech keyboard. Do you use any iPad back case along with the Logitech?
  6. macrumors 6502a


    Aug 30, 2012
    Long Island, NY
    Except the iPad2 is the lightest iPad (excluding mini)
  7. thread starter macrumors regular

    Nov 25, 2012
    I use a "Just Mobile" stand http://www.just-mobile.com/ipad/encore.html for the iPad and the keyboard is in front of the iPad since I use a silicone case on the iPad to protect the back. I guess since the ketboard is bluetooth it will be compatible with the 5th gen. I've placed rubber feet/bumpers on the back of the logitech keyboard to protect the aluminum finish.
  8. macrumors 68000


    Dec 8, 2006
    The question you ask suggests you think that Apple has it in them to build things as thin as they want at any time, regardless of battery size and other internals, like they've done it for one device and therefore they neglected these other devices that didn't get the same treatment.

    I think there are reasons Apple devices are the sizes they are (physical constraints of the hardware), but those are all irrelevant when talking about the iPad 4, because that was an anomalous update to the device, only designed to reset the refresh cycle so that it seems "fresh" for a year, until Autumn 2013, at which time it will get a full upgrade, incorporating a feature set (and perhaps redesign) warrants a product refresh/update.
  9. Guest

    You do realise that all these products are designed by one soft spoken British guy that's trapped in the basement of their Cupertino headquarters?

    Between designing new products like the ipad mini, iphone 5, retina macbook pro's and new imacs, he also spends several hours a day working on an escape tunnel he's digging out behind a shelf of discarded Thunderbolt Display prototypes in the rear quadrant of building 3.

    Give the guy a break.
  10. macrumors 6502a

    Jan 8, 2009
  11. macrumors 603

    May 21, 2009
    I thought he had a team working with him
  12. macrumors 68040

    Nov 12, 2012
    Curious how the new iPad will stack up versus the thickness and weight of the 2nd gen. It has to be one of the best designs on the market considering its overall size.
  13. macrumors P6


    Mar 20, 2004
    "Between the Hedges"
    You should be good to go then... since you are aware of their tactics, just avoid the brainwash of the next product and keep what you have with all of your accessories
    Problem solved
  14. thread starter macrumors regular

    Nov 25, 2012
    lol. Jony Ive looks malnourished.
  15. Guest

    Dec 7, 2010
    If you upgrade from the iPad 3 to the iPad 4...you have no reason to complain about the iPad 5 coming in March.

    If you kept your iPad 3 because you were smart, a redesigned iPad 5 is your reward for your patience.

    If you got the iPad 4 for a gift, your going to enjoy it a lot and it won't be outdated for a long time.
  16. macrumors regular


    Jul 10, 2007
    IF an iPad 5 comes in March.
  17. macrumors 6502

    Mar 20, 2008
    Not enough design resources? Limitations with the current technology (i.e., the battery needs to be a certain size to adequately power the Retina display)?

    How do you know that? Do you have the necessary engineering background and insight into Apple's design processes?

    That's why I keep my iDevice accessory purchases to a minimum. But how would the situation be different if they'd redesigned the iPad 4? You'd buy accessories for it. Then Apple would redesign either the iPad 5 or 6, and your iPad 4 accessories would be obsolete if you chose to upgrade.

    You really believe that? I don't think any high-tech roadmaps go out that far, because of the rate at which technology changes.

    You're saying you're brainwashed, then? Because you said your iPad accessories will become obsolete when the next iPad comes out. If it's just brainwashing, then hang onto your iPad 4 for as long as it's useful. That's what I plan to do with mine. I love it, having recently upgraded from my iPad 1.
  18. Guest

    Dec 7, 2010
    Yes, if but there's a good probability.
  19. Guest

    How do you know that? Do you have the necessary engineering background and insight into Apple's design processes?
  20. macrumors G3

    Jul 4, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Are you saying the battery doesn't need to be a certain size to power the screen?
  21. macrumors G5


    Nov 14, 2011
    Is it possible they didn't redesign it so as not to really piss off 3rd gen iPad owners? Or maybe they're saving the new design for when they're able to make the iPad thinner and lighter?
  22. macrumors 6502a

    Apr 14, 2010
    This is good sense. It's safe to say that iPad 3-5 will enjoy most if not all of the new iOS 7 features. Typically those excluded are related to hardware, and I haven't seen any major hardware predictions (aside from display improvements and design/weight changes which obviously don't impact the OS).
  23. macrumors 65816


    May 27, 2011
    Lima, Peru
    You spent $100 in a case? Oh my
  24. syd430, Dec 28, 2012
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  25. macrumors 6502


    Feb 7, 2010
    no redesign, and they cannot lose the weight unless they figure out how to make a huge retina display low power. Hence the battery size and the weight

    although the screen is awesome it does get warm after prolonged used

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