I just returned my two 6s plus rose gold to the Apple Store, guy said they are getting a bunch of returns today because everyone wants the sim free with band 30 lol.
Hopefully it's causing Apple enough of a loss that they just sell the SIM free from launch next year and/or stop selling phones with missing bands.I just returned my two 6s plus rose gold to the Apple Store, guy said they are getting a bunch of returns today because everyone wants the sim free with band 30 lol.
Hopefully it's causing Apple enough of a loss that they just sell the SIM free from launch next year and/or stop selling phones with missing bands.
More likely they just release the sim-free model after the free return window has expired, like they've done in past years.Hopefully it's causing Apple enough of a loss that they just sell the SIM free from launch next year and/or stop selling phones with missing bands.
Just put the SIM card from your old phone into the new one. If you don't have a nano-SIM get one from a Selectel retailer.I just returned home from my trip to the Apple Store with my SIM-free 6s, model A1633. I sent an email to the online dealer handling my Selectel account with the info he requested. Hopefully tomorrow the ESN change takes effect and the 6s is on Verizon towers.
Is band 30 the only difference on the one phone? If so, why make 2 models? Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just make the one with band 30 for everyone?
Good question. I would think so, but I guess not since Apple bothered making the different versions
You can't choose your band, but you can see what is being used in field test mode. Also, you should get higher speeds in wcs areascan you choose your LTE band or evenknow which you are using
how will anyone really know.
Also if many people go on band 30 as more and more 6S s get out there shouldnt everyone benefit?You can't choose your band, but you can see what is being used in field test mode. Also, you should get higher speeds in wcs areas
Just put the SIM card from your old phone into the new one. If you don't have a nano-SIM get one from a Selectel retailer.
Also if many people go on band 30 as more and more 6S s get out there shouldnt everyone benefit?
OK, so now I'm confused. I bought an ATT 1633 at full price last week, and was never asked any carrier info. I popped my ATT SIM into the phone and it worked fine. Then a few days after I made the purchase the SIM free model was released, and I thought, ok, no big deal, I already have that. Now I am hearing about this "whitelist" thing and now I'm wondering if I need to return my ATT phone and get the SIM free. I will be traveling internationally frequently and want the ability to just drop in any local SIM. Can I do this with the phone I have now? What is the whitelist that I'm hearing about?
The whitelist is only for CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint. If you are traveling internationally, just drop in a SIM card and you are good to go. Actually, you can drop in a Verizon or Sprint SIM and it would work, too. However, if your phone isn't on their "whitelist" you might have a hard time getting Verizon or Sprint to give you that SIM card in the first place.
Whitelist is only relevant to Verizon and Sprint. Otherwise both phones are identical.OK, so now I'm confused. I bought an ATT 1633 at full price last week, and was never asked any carrier info. I popped my ATT SIM into the phone and it worked fine. Then a few days after I made the purchase the SIM free model was released, and I thought, ok, no big deal, I already have that. Now I am hearing about this "whitelist" thing and now I'm wondering if I need to return my ATT phone and get the SIM free. I will be traveling internationally frequently and want the ability to just drop in any local SIM. Can I do this with the phone I have now? What is the whitelist that I'm hearing about?
Then all hell will break loose.But if you get the Sim free with band 30 but a Samsung chip....?
White lists are an anachronistic holdover from the days when CDMA carriers didn't use SIM cards. The phone's serial number had to be linked to a customer account in the carrier's database for the phone to communicate with the network. GSM carriers, by contrast, linked the customer account to the SIM card, which is why they never needed white lists. Now that all the main carriers are using SIM cards (a requirement of LTE) white lists aren't really necessary but Sprint and Verizon still use them.Ah ok so that is only if I ever want Verizon or Sprint service domestically. It doesn't affect any other CDMA or GSM carriers around the world? Also, what if I do want Verizon or Sprint service in the future, how would I get on that whitelist? And what is the point of it in the first place?
White lists are an anachronistic holdover from the days when CDMA carriers didn't use SIM cards. The phone's serial number had to be linked to a customer account in the carrier's database for the phone to communicate with the network. GSM carriers, by contrast, linked the customer account to the SIM card, which is why they never needed white lists. Now that all the main carriers are using SIM cards (a requirement of LTE) white lists aren't really necessary but Sprint and Verizon still use them.
It's possible Verizon will eventually white list all unlocked iPhone 6S models like they eventually did with the iPhone 6. However, until then, the only way is to ask their national office to add the phone when you switch. That said, an already active SIM card will work.
More control and greater ability to extract junk fees on changes of phone. What's not to like if you're a carrier?Now that all the main carriers are using SIM cards (a requirement of LTE) white lists aren't really necessary but Sprint and Verizon still use them.
YesSo is it confirmed that the SIM free version contains Band 30 plus all CDMA support? Is this the model to get?
It's released already by the way. Just got mine yesterday on the upgrade program.Cool, I will wait for this model then. Thanks.