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iphone 7 Water resist.... I am verry verry disapointed

Tsepz

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I7guy said:
What "plenty of phones" have ip67 and ip68. I know if only one and the headphone is going in that phone.

Also, you have no proof, the lack of headphone jack has anything to do with a money grab. However if it is your opinion...
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IP68 with 3.5mm Audiojack

Galaxy S7/S7 Edge
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_edge-7945.php

Sony Xperia XZ
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz-8313.php

Sony Xperia Z5 and Z5 Premium
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5-7534.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium-7536.php

Sony Xperia X Performance
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_x_performance-7949.php

Huawei Ascend G350
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_g350-5648.php

That list goes on...

IP67 with 3.5mm Audiojack

Samsung Galaxy S5
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-6033.php

HP Elite x3
http://www.gsmarena.com/hp_elite_x3-7954.php

Sony Xperia go
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_go-4782.php

Motorola DEFY+
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_defy+-4098.php

And so on, and so forth...

Happy?

Many IP67 AND 68 phones with 3.5mm jack.
 
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Tsepz said:
Nobody claimed they do, so what are you on about?
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Considering that the thread is about a person upset because Apple won't cover their damaged water logged phone, he is just covering the point you missed. ;)
 
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Tsepz said:
I responded to the OP's post WRT removal of 3.5mm headphone jack, and the fact that it doesn't need to be removed to make IP67 or IP68.

You may go ahead and ignore our posts if they aren't what you were looking for.

Cheers! :D
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Well I appreciate the list but it doesn't change the fact that these vendors probably don't cover water damage similar to Apple, and I think Apple was following an industry standard already set.
 
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I7guy said:
Well I appreciate the list but it doesn't change the fact that these vendors probably don't cover water damage similar to Apple, and I think Apple was following an industry standard already set.
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LOL! LOVE IT! :D

You asked me what phones are IP67 AND 68 with the headphone jack, I answered you and then you go on WRT water damage warranty.

As said before, nobody claimed they did, I was answering the OP's post and your question.

With regards to warranty, I'm not even sure what the other OEMs have in place.

Down here in South Africa, Samsung do indeed cover BOTH Water Damage and Screen cracking on the S7 and S7 Edge, under ADH Premium, which is standard on their flagships here.
 
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Tsepz said:
LOL! LOVE IT! :D

You asked me what phones are IP67 AND 68 with the headphone jack, I answered you and then you go on WRT water damage warranty.

As said before, nobody claimed they did, I was answering the OP's post and your question.

With regards to warranty, I'm not even sure what the other OEMs have in place.

Down here in South Africa, Samsung do indeed cover BOTH Water Damage and Screen cracking on the S7 and S7 Edge, under ADH Premium, which is standard on their flagships here.
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The policies are different in different places. Here in the US water damage is not covered.:oops: You can look this up yourself if you are interested.

That is the entire point of this thread, Apple won't cover water damage, which is in line with others...here in the US.
 
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I7guy said:
What "plenty of phones" have ip67 and ip68. I know if only one and the headphone is going in that phone.

Also, you have no proof, the lack of headphone jack has anything to do with a money grab. However if it is your opinion...
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Um lets see:

1. Galaxy S7 & S7 Edge
2. Alcatel OneTouch Go Play
3. Sony Xperia Z5
4. Galaxy S5
5. Motorola Moto G4

Just to name major brands
 
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bradbomb said:
You asked what other phones have IP67 or IP68 ratings and still have the 3.5mm headphone jack. I listed some phones for you
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The original point was it's a money grab, so out of curiosity I asked what other phones have waterproofing and if those phones are fully supported in the event the water damage sensors are tripped. The galaxy s7(not the active) in the usa is not warrantied for water damage, unless you pay for a protection plan. It seems apple is following some of the same trends as other manufacturers. (at least one);)
 
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I7guy said:
I haven't seen service decline personally. I've read in these forums Apple is not throwing free new phones at people anymore. Don't know if that Is considered a service decline or not.
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I gave one it two examples earlier in the thread. I'm still waiting on the call back I was promised on Monday. I went in today to check (I had to go into tmobile anyway as it's in the same mall as apple) and they had the batteries I was waiting to get a call for. Of course I didn't have the phone (moms phone) with me. They couldn't really tell me why I didn't get a call. I guess we will see if they have them tomorrow evening.

It's a minor thing, but based on my previous experiences I've always been in and out and not had to "work" to get anything fixed. I even mentioned that a potential fix for this would be a better booking system considering eligibility is (and was in my case) checked with the online tool Apple provided. Ironic that the reason I was in the mall in the first place is to fix another tmobile screw up to my account lol.

Anyway, I made my statements because I've felt Apple was always top of class. They still are, but they've backed off a bit in my eyes. If they're as great as they've ever been for you, that's awesome. There are various other points I could make like out of warranty repair costs going up steeply, Apple care costs raising, etc but that's probably not fornthis thread either. At the end of the day I'm not trying to change any minds here. Just sharing my thoughts and experiences. And I feel apple's service isn't what it was four or five years ago.
 
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I7guy said:
The policies are different in different places. Here in the US water damage is not covered.:oops: You can look this up yourself if you are interested.

That is the entire point of this thread, Apple won't cover water damage, which is in line with others...here in the US.
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Though it initially required some arm twisting, Samsung has publicly gone on record that it will cover water damage in their warranty if the Galaxy S7 Active.

https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1114489

https://news.samsung.com/us/2016/07...resistance-test/?CID=AFL-hq-mul-0813-11000279
 
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newellj said:
Apple says they've tested it. Apple says it meets the test. Apple then says, in a grayed-out footnote, that they won't stand behind their claims. It's a great model for honest, straightforward marketing.
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There is literally an entire page on Apple's support site explaining water resistance and their stance on water damage. It's not just some "grayed out footnote" in an ad. You're speaking as if you think Apple is trying to hide the fact that they don't cover water damage.

Have you seen the VW commercial with the Dad dropping his daughter off at school, when they're suddenly cut off and the VW brakes automatically? I've linked it below. If you go to the 24 second mark there is a page with small print that literally says not to rely on the car to stop automatically...after they show the car...stopping automatically.


All companies do this. But they expect people to use common sense, so they state that in their commercials and on their websites. If someone is being mislead, it's because they're choosing to only listen to what they want to hear from a company.
 
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I7guy said:
They will not support the s7 however, which has the "same rating", as said above.
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Correct but my point was about the S7 Active. It is being supported as stated in both official links from at&t and Samsung.
 
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BeeGood said:
There is literally an entire page on Apple's support site explaining water resistance and their stance on water damage. It's not just some "grayed out footnote" in an ad. You're speaking as if you think Apple is trying to hide the fact that they don't cover water damage.

Have you seen the VW commercial with the Dad dropping his daughter off at school, when they're suddenly cut off and the VW brakes automatically? I've linked it below. If you go to the 24 second mark there is a page with small print that literally says not to rely on the car to stop automatically...after they show the car...stopping automatically.


All companies do this. But they expect people to use common sense, so they state that in their commercials and on their websites. If someone is being mislead, it's because they're choosing to only listen to what they want to hear from a company.
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Not to rely on something and have it fail and result in damages when confronted with a situation that it is actually designed for are different things. It would be fairly safe to assume that VW would be in some hot water if that feature wasn't working in situations for which it was designed, especially if those resulted in damages.
 
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C DM said:
Not to rely on something and have it fail and result in damages when confronted with a situation that it is actually designed for are different things. It would be fairly safe to assume that VW would be in some hot water if that feature wasn't working in situations for which it was designed, especially if those resulted in damages.
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I think it's safe to asssume that VW has tested this feature and it does work as designed. That is certainly the case with iPhone 7/7+ water resistance.
 
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BeeGood said:
I think it's safe to asssume that VW has tested this feature and it does work as designed. That is certainly the case with iPhone 7/7+ water resistance.
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And if there's a real world case where it fails and results in damages do we really think that VW would just skate on by with the equivalent of something like "oh well, we don't guarantee that it would work"? Much less important and less guaranteed things about essentially estimated fuel efficiency have gotten them in much bigger trouble.
 
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C DM said:
And if there's a real world case where it fails and results in damages do we really think that VW would just skate on by with the equivalent of something like "oh well, we don't guarantee that it would work"?
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What would that look like exactly?

A driver is cruising along and a deer pops out. The driver decides not to brake and rely on automation to stop the car?

How on earth would VW be responsible for the resulting collision?
 
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