I am not trying to start a flame war, or Apple bash fest here, just my observations, and would like your opinion too. So we all know the Apple iPhone is top selling smartphone for years now, and they have had their devoted loyal fan base. I was one of those as well the first two iPhone's, then moved on to the Nexus-One, and haven't looked back, having owned all Nexus phones. I am open minded to going back to an iPhone for sure, but want 4.3" screen and Widgets. But that's not the point of this thread. To me the iPhone 4 was a major breakthrough for Apple, the first high res smartphone, with the nice industrial design, best in class battery life, and it sold like mad crazy, and rightfully so. At that time Android was still pretty rough around the edges, not as polished yet. Then came the iPhone 4S, which didn't seem like that big an upgrade, but Android had their Galaxy S2, and Galaxy Nexus which was very competitive and mature, and now we have the iPhone 5, again OS wise, not much different at all, and the design is basically the same again, just thinner and taller, bit overall still in the iPhone 4 family. Now, my point. I read a ton of tech forums, Android forums, Apple forums, and general computer nerd forums. And the past several months I see more and more people going to Android, like the Galaxy S3...One X...Note II...and now the new Windows 8 Phones. And a lot of these people were hardcore Apple fans and iPhone 4 owners, looking for a change, wanting something different. people that have said they would always buy iPhone's only, are switching away to Android or Windows, because they feel the iPhone 5 is just more of the same, mainly iOS being no different for a few years now. And really shocking is the Note II being so popular, not just with the Android geeks, but Apple fans, that thought they would never go for such a large phone before, but once they see it, and try it out, actually like it. Same with the new Nokia Lumia 920, tons of Apple people saying they were for sure going iPhone 5, then they saw the Windows 8 Phone, and fell in love with the live tiles, larger screen, etc...and just being fresh and original compared to the iPhone 5. My question is, if the iPhone 5S this Summer / Fall, is just more of the same, do you see the iPhone going down in sales slowly ? And Windows and Android gaining more Apple fans ? My opinion, iOS needs a major overhaul, the "App drawer left open look, is very dated to me. Just a screen full of app icons, looks old and boring. Also 4" screen is still not large enough, should be 4.3" or so. And that's not just me an Android nerd saying this, all the forums I read are saying the same thing. Opinions ??