iPhone or Android

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by jimmy 7, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. macrumors newbie

    Apr 20, 2013
    Hey this is just gonna be a question on whether or not hoping that the next iphone will bring what the iphone 5 didnt or should i switch?
    Note: i Currently have an iPhone 4s and i'm looking to upgrade in december of this year:confused:
  2. macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012
    Then u have time to wait for Apple's next offering and compare.

    If u want opinions, speculations, there are plenty of existing posts on this site that talk about them. Have fun browsing.
  3. macrumors 6502a

    Oct 15, 2012
    If you're hoping the 5S will be a massive departure from the 5 then you will be disapointed, it will be a 5 with some more bells and whistles.
  4. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Apr 20, 2013
    I dont think the iPhone 5 will be a huge difference but i just want to get some insight on whether the iPhone would be a better purchase then an android

    Note: I mean the iPhone 5 as the iPhone that would be the purchase
  5. macrumors 68040

    Jul 2, 2012
    You have more than enough time to decide.
  6. macrumors G3


    Nov 29, 2011
    Boston, MA
    Bring what the 5 didn't? Why don't you tell us what you were expecting and we can at least give you our opinion on whether or not they are reasonable expectations for the successor.
  7. macrumors 6502a


    Nov 8, 2010
    Only you can decide that. You've got plenty of time to decide, by the time you upgrade, the next iPhone, Nexus, and Note iterations should be out. So decide which is right for you, and go from there.

    I understand where you're coming from, chosing a phone really shouldn't be a difficult decision, but in todays tech world, it really can be
  8. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Apr 20, 2013
    What really the iPhone 5 didnt really bring was not many things but enough that many people say how it isn't worth an upgrade. It didn't bring a new camera all it did was really change the glass. It only changed it's screen size by only half an inch. And the design is a lot like the 4,4/s. It also wasen't a huge performance upgrade were it made the previous gens look outdated. ;)
  9. macrumors 68000


    Feb 11, 2009
    I dont know what exactly you are missing on the iphone 5, but yet again I agree and think the iphone lacks a lot of innovation. Sadly I think 5s will be the same phone with slightly better camera and a slightly better cpu, which is just meh!. I´m sad to say I´ve gotten a bit bored of the iphone updates, the changes have become incremental. Seems apple thinks they have made the perfect phone and therefore thinks there´s no point making something new. I will probably buy the iphone 5s, even though I have the 5, but I doubt there´s much reason to do so except just for the heck of it. I do believe Apple has to ramp up their innovative team again, because at this point, even an apple fan like myself have no really good reason to say that people should stay away from Android phones like samsung, HTC and Sony...they are getting stuff that makes the iphone just seem a bit out of date in some areas....and I know a lot of the things are impractical or just flavor stuff, but still we need those things too....the phone is suppose to be more than just a useful device, the way apple market it, its suppose to be cool, a fashion statement ...etc...

    this is the stuff I miss the most:

    -bigger screen (yeah I know apple think my fingers won´t like it - but they are wrong, they should release 2 sizes and see for themselves)

    -new cool ui, innovative and yet practical changes that makes it fun again to look at the screen while at the same time making it even more useful. This is probably were I feel Apple has truly stagnated - the current main screen and lock screen UI is simple to use, but it´s also extremely boring and limited. I don´t say android is better UI but its getting more interesting every day. And UI is suppose to be one of apples strongest abilities. THere´s been ton of ideas and videos from people having great ideas for iOS, I dont understand why apple isn´t able to take something of that and use to their advantage. Others stole from apple and are improving it in a faster rate than them.

    -get a better streamlined design on ios and apples apps, get rid of all that horrible skeumorphic cheezyness that doesnt even help ignorant users.

    -an even more sturdy exterior design. the iphone 5 build quality is great, but the phone gets scuffs and marks like never before.

    -Siri has been out 2 years now and it still only support a few languages. Come on Apple ?!?!?

    -Maps is completely useless. Its gorgeous but useless. I was lucky in the beginning, but suddenly I got tons wrong directions, to the extent I´ll never use it again unless Apple announce it´s worth a try again. Google maps app looks almost as good while actually being accurate.

    -how about an actual improvement to the battery for once ? Since 3ds the battery has just shortened more and more for every model. On iphone 5 it lasts a day if you use it carefully. It´s time for a revolution here.
  10. macrumors 6502a


    Aug 9, 2012
    Knoxville, TN
    Based on the time you gave us on when you're going to upgrade, you still have lots of time to decide, but i'm sure there will be plenty new Android devices and a new iPhone released in that period of time. And it's gonna be entirely up to you on your decision to switch or stay.
  11. macrumors member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Maybe since the iPhone has been such a disappointment, he should build his own phone and see how it turns out.

    LTE and upgraded WiFi alone were pretty decent jumps for this one.. but like I said.. for all the bitching that goes on about the "innovation" and improvements that are lacking on these phones (be they iPhones, droids, what-have you), I'd like to see someone do better... :rolleyes:
  12. macrumors 68000


    Feb 11, 2009
    what the heck has that got to do with it? So if you think a product from a multibillion company isn´t as good as wish for, you better shut up unless you can make a better one yourself? That´s honestly a childish argument.

    I´m a fanboy, I´ve been a fan boy for a long time and wish to be so for a long time too. But apple has to keep making the greatest products, and lately they are falling behind imo. and they are releasing half finished apps and tiny phone improvements while the rest of the competitors are desperately trying to pimp their phones as much as possible. And for a long time everyone else has been far from the iphone, but they are catching up,... and fast...and on some areas they are actually better.
  13. macrumors member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Frankly I think the childish part is the "Now, now, now" and "bigger (or smaller..), better, faster sense of entitlement presented by a good majority of the consumer base.

    I've been using Apple products for a long time, and have used them alongside their counterparts for that same amount of time. People demand it be smaller, but faster, longer battery life, but twice as powerful.. there are threads on these forums that demand that Apple produce something to their specific liking or else they will move on. I say let them. Apple hasn't ever struck me as a company that looks to "pimp out" its devices. They are about solidity, dependability, something that all the pimping in the world won't bring to these other devices so long as they remain fragmented the way that they are.

    These speculative months just get pretty ridiculous with the demands and meaningless threats..

    If the OP is looking to compare the iPhone 5 to current droid devices.. he'd do well to, as someone already suggested, develop a list of criteria and find which device checks the most blocks.. If he's wondering if a future device that no one has solid knowledge of we meet those criteria, then maybe his time would be better spent making mock-ups that won't be considered or building his own device to his liking...

    You say that you think Apple is "falling behind" with developing the greatest products, but go on to say that competitors are "desperately trying to pimp their phones as much as possible".. that tells me they still have the competition playing catch-up.. often times on the coat-tails of Apple releases. Brand loyalty is great and all, but if you think another company does it better, then maybe it is time to break-up.. But I think it is time for us to grow up and realize that Apple, and its competitors are out there doing things with technology that many of us don't even understand how they pull them off.. and if technology plateaus for a couple releases, so be it.. because I'd rather have a minor update that I don't mind missing out on every now and then, followed by something amazing that I can't ignore..
  14. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Apr 20, 2013
    i never stated that i could build a better phone i was asking for guidance on the next phone purchase i should get and since when am i gonna compete with apple or samsung or htc? Don't see any phones created by you?
  15. macrumors member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Nope, I haven't made anything.. I am not a phone developer, or manufacturer. I gratefully use the tools that others have provided for me.

    You say you are looking for guidance on your next purchase, but you still haven't actually laid out criteria.. all you've done is stated that the iPhone 5 wasn't enough.. I think if you laid out specific criteria for what you want out of the device you spend your money on, you'd probably be able to answer your own question.. and even if not, people might have an easier time giving you useful feedback based on their own experience. Considering the sheer number of devices by each of the other manufacturers you listed.. it would be hard to even begin to pit all of them against an iPhone in a comprehensive manner..
  16. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 10, 2012
    /home @
    Switching takes time, so make sure that it's worth it. I fail to see why one OS should be inherently better or worse than the other, but if it's very important for you to do anything you want with your phone without jailbreaking it, then switching to Android might be a good solution for you.
  17. macrumors 6502a

    Oct 24, 2008
    So much time and so little information on what will be available to end 2013.

    iPhone 5S
    Nexus 2013
    Galaxy S4
    Note 3
    HTC One maturity

    I honestly think you should just enjoy your 4S and see what happens because this year is going to tell us whether Apple is finally realizing how big of a threat Android is to the simplicity of iOS or if it will be 'business as usual'.

    I think you'll probably be getting an S4 but who knows.
  18. macrumors 68020

    Oct 26, 2008
    The 5 already brought it.
  19. macrumors 68030


    Mar 25, 2011
    Android has never been a threat to Apple. Apple has never run their business in a competition form.
  20. macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2009
    Westland, Michigan
    Why is "pimping their phones as much as possible" a good thing? Where's the respect for a company that refines their efforts?

    If you want to be on the cutting edge of Android, go ahead and buy the 15 "next big thing" phones they release per year. Good luck choosing.

    Grass is always greener.
  21. macrumors G3

    Jul 23, 2002
    Sol III - Terra
    We'll know what the next iPhone has when Apple announces it.

    As for Android, I suggest when you have time you go into a store and play with the Android phones... see how you like the feel of the software. You will need to try many phones as the software is all customized differently on Android phones. Even from the same manufacturer.

    And you would need to do this before you bought an Android phone anyway.
  22. macrumors regular


    Oct 17, 2011
    You can't possibly be this ignorant..
  23. takeshi74, Apr 22, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2013

    macrumors 601

    Feb 9, 2011
    That's a highly subjective matter or else everyone would be using one and not the other. Take a look around and you'll see that people use different devices based on their needs/wants/etc. If you want us to tell you then you need to clearly spell out your needs/wants for us. Otherwise, it's the same as shopping for anything else. List our your needs/wants. Assign weights. Select what suits you best.

    Back up your statement. How is BaconG ignorant? Is product refinement not important to anyone? Is there not a constant stream of the "latest and greatest" Android devices? Is the "grass is greener" not applicable in many cases (regardless of which camp the person is currently in)?

    What's ignorant and why?
  24. macrumors 6502a


    Dec 23, 2012
    If you like themes and so on, go for android, if you want apps go for the iphone. :D It is personal preference :p
  25. macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2009
    Westland, Michigan
    Because I disagree with you, I'm ignorant?

    Apple isn't on the cutting edge when it comes to introducing features to their phones. This is obvious. But I've seen plenty of people champion Android for that feature alone. It's dangerous to just praise something for "innovation" when this innovation may not be worthwhile or useful.

    There are definitely things about Android that iOS needs. But even the fastest, most feature filled, most spec-beast Android phone doesn't feel as consistently smooth and lag-free as an iPhone 5. I've tried Galaxy S3, Nexus 4 (outstanding phone) and several other of the top-tier Android offerings. Google even created a "Project Butter" for Jelly Bean to make their operating system smooth. Apple doesn't need that; it already is smooth.

    It depends on what you want from a phone. Do you want a brand new Android device, with all the newest features (maybe! HTC One doesn't ship with newest Android update) and best specs?

    Do you want a phone that, despite not having a quad core and 2 GB of ram still out-benchmarks other phones?

    There's advantages to both. All I see on the internet is that "Apple doesn't innovate" and that the iPhone's screen is too small.

    Apple was on top for awhile. People aren't comparing Apple to a single company, they're comparing them to the bulk of companies producing Android devices. Apple releases a phone a year. Of course the iPhone 5 is lagging behind the newest Android devices..because they're new!

    I'm rambling, sorry. All my point is saying is that jamming feature after feature into a phone doesn't necessarily make it better.

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