iphone will never be Cingular will be AT&T

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by sunstream, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. sunstream macrumors newbie

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    It is my understanding that Cingular will not exist by June. This "new AT&T" will be so great why? It seems that we really know little about the network the iphone will be on, and judging anything on what is now Cingular is futile.
     
  2. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    Actually, Cingular won't exist by Tuesday, but the only thing changing will be the name. The network will remain exactly the same.
     
  3. Warbrain macrumors 603

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    It's the same network. Nothing else is changing except for the name. So give it up.
     
  4. sunstream thread starter macrumors newbie

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    AT&T is saying that the "new AT&T" will deliver a much improved network. Mabe it will migrate completely to Cingular as e know it, but thats hardly much improved. I kind of doubt that it would not be overhauled in the near future, but maybe your right. It may be exactly the same, that would be sad.
     
  5. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    Cingular is a subsidiary of AT&T. Essentially, Cingular is already an AT&T wireless network, they're just making it official with a name change.

    There may be some minor improvements to the network between now and June, but the same could be said for any wireless carrier.
     
  6. dllavaneras macrumors 68000

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    Can they improve the service (reception and the like) with the same infrastructure (without new towers)?
     
  7. sunstream thread starter macrumors newbie

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    The transition paper touts many upcoming improvements for future customers. Lets hope they are progressive changes that make them a network we (the future subscribers solely for the iPhone) actually are satisfied enough with to join.
     
  8. chicagdan macrumors 6502a

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    Oh dear God ... Cingular put out a similar "transition paper" when they bought and collapsed AT&T Wireless. Can't speak for all of America, but here in Chicago the result was seriously weaker call coverage and customer experience.

    Don't buy the corporate ********, especially when it comes from a cellular company or an evil Big Brother like AT&T which handed over all customer records to the Bush administration without a legal opinion or the slightest hint to customers that their privacy rights had been abrogated.
     
  9. balamw Moderator

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    Cingular (or whatever they're calling themselves today) have a bunch of things coming down the pike. "3G" rollout (HSDPA/HSUPA), new Advanced Wireless Services spectrum, etc... etc... etc... Of course, none of those will have much of an impact on current subscribers without buying a new phone...

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  10. pianodude123 macrumors 6502a

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    Can monkeys fly?
     
  11. balamw Moderator

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    Outta where? ;)

    The cellular infrastructure is constantly in flux. New spectrum and services are constantly being added to existing cell sites.

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  12. Sensfan67 macrumors member

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    M-O-N-O-P-O-L-Y.....gosh, isn't this what started happeneing in the 1800's? these guys are gonna rule everything soon, how's that so good for you?
     
  13. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    Have you heard of Verizon?
     
  14. McGarvels macrumors 6502

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    Yeah, aren't they the jerks that cripple their phones so you have to buy their crappy ringtones, etc etc etc. Maybe I'm wrong...or not. It's great having a bluetooth capable phone that is only good to wipe your a** with.
     
  15. rockthecasbah macrumors 68020

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    They cripple their phones' capabilities but their network is big as hell ;)
     
  16. MacCheetah3 macrumors 6502

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    Hi
    UMTS [from Cingular] is only in 63 major US cities thus far. This isn't even mentioning WCDMA, ... I'd guess not even those cities are well covered. Put simply...I don't see nationwide coverage of either data or voice 3G technology in the US for a couple years at least.

    And old network but that is also why they have good coverage in some areas, more so than T-Mobile or Cingular. Verizon purchased some AWS licenses but analysts claim that they are never in a hurry to deploy then and can financially withstand sitting on them for awhile.
     
  17. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    This is not a transition, per se; it is only a name change. When Cingular bought AT&T Wireless, two wireless companies became one. This time, Cingular is taking the name of its parent company.
     
  18. mac-er macrumors 65816

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    Cingular bought AT&T Wireless, which was a independent company from the old AT&T at the time (old AT&T spun off AT&T Wireless a few years before).

    Cingular was co-owned by new AT&T (which was really the old SBC, which had bought the old AT&T) and BellSouth (which used to be a part of the old AT&T).

    When the new AT&T purchased BellSouth a few weeks ago, they became full owners in Cingular.
     
  19. mac-er macrumors 65816

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    Telephone service has changed dramatically since the 1800s when there was only one provider (old AT&T) and only one way to communicate (landline).

    Landline is dead.
     
  20. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    FWIW, Southwestern Bell Corporation/SBC/[the new ]AT&T owned 60% of Cingular. What this means is that it has always held controlling interest in Cingular. During the period between the SBC purchase of AT&T and [the new ]AT&T's announcement of its purchase of BellSouth, [the new ]AT&T stated that it would sell all of its services (including wireless) under the AT&T banner. AT&T's purchase of BellSouth simplified its plans, it did not enable them.
     

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