Sapphire is the most crystal clear you can imagine. My Rolex is sapphire crystal and it's as clear as water.
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iPhone with Sapphire Display Glass Reportedly in Trial Production
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Sapphire is the most crystal clear you can imagine. My Rolex is sapphire crystal and it's as clear as water.
Sapphire colors come from impurities. If it's grown in a lab it won't have impurities and will be clear.
The bad thing about sapphire glass is that it shatters easily.
Yeah, it's impossible to scratch, but...
BTW, once i won a $100 bet with a guy in a bar. I challenged him to scratch my watch (a panerai luminor with sapphire glass). He tried everything: coins, keys, his zippo lighter, even a screwdriver. Haha, so funny.
Yeah, it's impossible to scratch, but...
BTW, once i won a $100 bet with a guy in a bar. I challenged him to scratch my watch (a panerai luminor with sapphire glass). He tried everything: coins, keys, his zippo lighter, even a screwdriver. Haha, so funny.
+1. A girl said to me: wow your watch doesn't have a glass cover.
I was wearing this one (with a shark mesh bracelet
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I used to be a jeweler. Sapphires can be many colors - or virtually colorless - blu(ish) happens to be the common one - and the one most people associate with the term "sapphire." Has to do with different impurities (and possibly variations in lattice structure from the process that formed them, tho' I'm hazy on that). Same with diamonds - yellow, blue, green and (rarest) red.
These are all natural sapphires (and note that rubies are another variety of corundum):
As WikiP notes:
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I forgot to add: Type III anodizing on the phone body please! Going to a lighter shade of black to hide the scratches is NOT acceptable. Just go to type III anodizing already. I'm sure if anyone can make type III look good, it's Apple.
Recap:
-Introduce a larger screen size
-New form factor similar to the ipads and ipods with comfortable rounded edges (Enough of this chamfer ******** - Sharp edges on a phone are not comfortable)
-Obligatory hardware bumps, including camera
-Saphire display
-Waterproof
-Type III anodizing for the body
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-Profit
The glass used today is actually fine. I've been using 4S for more than 2 years and the display looks perfect as new. Even the steel band is quite okay considering its age.
The iPhone 5 and newer however is fragile on its aluminum body. Stupid design by any means.
The iPhone 5 and newer however is fragile on its aluminum body. Stupid design by any means.
Geez, the point is to provide evidence Apple is actually considering sapphire glass on more than simply camera lenses. I for one find this one of the more exciting rumors we've come across lately. I've never cracked or shattered the display on any of my devices, but I have experienced a bunch of scratches over time. If sapphire can fix that, I can't wait to see it as the main glass on iPhones, iPads, and hopefully MacBooks if that's possible down the line.
Basically every high end watch you can buy uses sapphire glass over the watch face. I would be amazed if Apple made a watch that didn't use sapphire. Watches get banged around a heck of a lot more than phones ever do. Cheaper watches use plastic, or some other material, but I don't really see Apple going that route.
I thought this was somewhat obvious and thus posed a rhetorical question.
Perhaps I needed to be more clear.
No, I work in an acute care medical setting where all sorts of people go through and the (unprotected) phone is often pushed around on the table/counter to make space. I am also coach/assist. coach/trainer on three hockey teams & two soccer teams and use the phone as both a teaching aid and a diagnostic aid.
When I used the word "minutes", it was an exaggeration for effect.
Perhaps I needed to be more clear.
Cases can be utilitarian, or an expression of individuality. Often, decreasing the need for the former element allows greater latitude for the latter. In any case, the optimal solution for most consumers is a product that is both shatter-resistant and highly scratch-resistant in its entirety. It does quite well now (my son's phone was accidentally knocked over a landing onto hardwood flooring 18ft below and it escaped unscathed, to my surprise) but there remains room to improve. The next step may well be materials like sapphire and/or a form of LiquidMetal.
Jony (check your spelling) is all about managing the "iconic image" that represents Apple and its products. I agree that its all about selling the product, however I would argue that his preference is for the phone to be unadorned, since that helps to emphasize the design differences between the iPhones and competitors.
As for maintaining usefulness, he is also head of human interface design, so I think it's fair to say that many would question his commitment to this vis-a-vis iOS 7 (and perhaps even parts of Mavericks). I will leave that as a matter of opinion.
heavier and higher dielectric constant
Capacitive touch displays generally are better off with higher dielectric constant materials. Glass is better than acrylic and sapphire is better than glass. Unfortunately... Sapphire is about 60% heavier than GG3... But can be thinner to compensate.
Capacitive touch displays generally are better off with higher dielectric constant materials. Glass is better than acrylic and sapphire is better than glass. Unfortunately... Sapphire is about 60% heavier than GG3... But can be thinner to compensate.
Two iPhones in the same pocket AND wear a diamond bracelet AND sapphire-faced watch at the same time?
Drug dealer much?
Gorilla Glass 3 sufficient?
According to Corning, their GG3 is more flexible and less likely to fracture under stress.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/gorilla-channel/Corning®-Gorilla®-Glass-vs.-Sapphire
Interesting video. As cool as Sapphire is and there are a few small advantages... perhaps GG3 is more likely to see or maybe preferable?
J
According to Corning, their GG3 is more flexible and less likely to fracture under stress.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/gorilla-channel/Corning®-Gorilla®-Glass-vs.-Sapphire
Interesting video. As cool as Sapphire is and there are a few small advantages... perhaps GG3 is more likely to see or maybe preferable?
J
High end watches use sapphire - some exceptions
Yup, sapphire with anti-reflective coatings... although 'some' high end german/swiss watches have acrylic bezels... likely because of their antique nostalgic appearance/color and one is able to remove scratches that do occur. Saying that, my preference is still for sapphire ;-)
Corning is saying their GG3 is stronger and more flexible than sapphire. I am beginning to wonder if sapphire is best when GG3 is lighter and more flexible.
Yup, sapphire with anti-reflective coatings... although 'some' high end german/swiss watches have acrylic bezels... likely because of their antique nostalgic appearance/color and one is able to remove scratches that do occur. Saying that, my preference is still for sapphire ;-)
Corning is saying their GG3 is stronger and more flexible than sapphire. I am beginning to wonder if sapphire is best when GG3 is lighter and more flexible.
And what's the point? Its the ultimate vendor that decides whether one product is better or not. Apple has access to the latest and greatest from Corning and despite that they see the investment into Saphire a worthy one. Perhaps the saphire isnt for a smartphone screen but if it is is not reasonable to assume that apple would have done that tradeoff at the design/conceptualization stage?
Apple's patent seem to point to using gorilla glass and sapphire laminated together for crazy strength and scratch resistance.
not solely on that...
Hey KelliKins ;-)
I totally agree Corning would say that... but from the Corning video... they show GG3 requires much more pressure to break... plus... it flexes a lot more which I assume would help to avoid stress fractures from people sitting on their phones etc. Without objective testing it is all emotion and conjecture. Did you see the video?
They do not show scratch resistance tests though.
J
Hey KelliKins ;-)
I totally agree Corning would say that... but from the Corning video... they show GG3 requires much more pressure to break... plus... it flexes a lot more which I assume would help to avoid stress fractures from people sitting on their phones etc. Without objective testing it is all emotion and conjecture. Did you see the video?
They do not show scratch resistance tests though.
J
Exactly , that is why them saying that their product is superior is such a generic statement as they have absolutely no access to the product apple is working on/investing in. Only company that can do an objective evaluation of the two products is apple (at this point in time).
standard tests
Everyone has access to GT Advanced sapphire and corning put It side by side with GG3. Apple has a patent for mounting sapphire but no unique material yet. The video shows both materials side by side. GG3 obviously can take more force and flexes... but that doesn't say anything about scratch resistance. Its not just a generic statement when they have comparative objective tests. Do you see a problem with their testing method?
Everyone has access to GT Advanced sapphire and corning put It side by side with GG3. Apple has a patent for mounting sapphire but no unique material yet. The video shows both materials side by side. GG3 obviously can take more force and flexes... but that doesn't say anything about scratch resistance. Its not just a generic statement when they have comparative objective tests. Do you see a problem with their testing method?