iPhone's "other" in iTunes

Discussion in 'iPhone Tips, Help and Troubleshooting' started by dethklok7, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. macrumors member

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    Question out of curiosity. In itunes when it shows you how much space you've used up in your iphone with music/photos/ect it also lists other. What is exactly that other? Could it possibly be cydia and installer or is it something else?
     
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    vivithemage

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    what is other in itunes? On my iphone 1st generation

    I have 200-250MB of OTHER in my itunes when I look up my iphone first generation.

    My friend also has 300-350mb of other...

    Both of our phones are jailbroken/unlocked.

    Is it saved games or something?
     
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    Warbrain

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    Other is filesystem, jailbrake data...
     
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    mgpg89

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    Yes.

    Anything from application (non-iTunes apps), saved games, stored files (using OpenSSH for example) etc ...

    Anything that takes up space and can not be recognized by iTunes, shows up as 'other'.
     
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    "Other" (Taking up space)

    Hi there

    what exactly is "other" on the iphone disk?

    It's taking up like 520mb on my 8gb iphone and i already had to delete some albums and other things to gain space and now again it increased and now have "zero" free space left.

    Is it some sort of temporary cache? Any way to flush it?
     
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    robbieduncan

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    Other includes all the data saved by installed applications. Have you got any apps installed that might save large amounts of local data?
     
  7. macrumors 6502

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    It's also things like album metadata and artwork!
     
  8. macrumors 6502a

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    IIRC, the "Other" also includes the operating system for the iPhone. Not exactly something you want to nuke...
     
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    JPIndustrie

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    Are you jailbroken with JB'ed apps? I think part of the 'other' are the JB programs and their associated files too. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    "Other" taking up 3GB, what is "Other"?

    I have asked the same thing, haha. I have like 3GB of mysterious space.

    EDIT: My thread was moved here...kind of flabbergasted me at first, haha.

    I have a 16GB White iPhone 3G, and it has 14.64GB of space when you get it of course. But, when I plug it into iTunes, it says there is 2.96GB of space used (named Other). I only have 483 songs, 12 photos, and 44 apps which takes up a total space of not even 3.5GB

    Would anyone have an idea on what this is? I did jailbreak my iPhone a while back, but I brought it back to its vanilla state (if that makes a difference).

    [​IMG]
     
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    mkrishnan

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    Please search to find existing threads on a topic before posting a new one. Posts that repeat existing threads will generally be merged where possible.

    In your case, that's pretty extreme. I don't think there are many apps that could account for that kind of space. You might want to consider restoring your firmware (which sometimes help drive down the Other space if there's stuff that shouldn't be in there).
     
  12. macrumors newbie

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    iPhone 3GS

    I just got a 3GS and look at my other. Whats the point of having 32GBs when almost half is used by hidden things?
    [​IMG]
     
  13. macrumors member

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    This is clearly a 3.0 bug. I added today about 8GB of music to the iphone, and now this "Audio" space has mysteriously transformed into "Other". The music is completely gone from the iphone, so I believe the internal database is corrupted.

    Picture 1.png

    Note: This is with a 3G 16GB
     
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    My beloved 16gb iPhone has 11.3 gb of the available 14 allocated to other which I cannot delete. This is approximately the size of my iTunes library before it "dissappeared" so I am assuming that acmeplus is spot on and the database has corrupted.

    Restoring my iPhone back to basics and resynching fixed me up perfectly...except for a minor loss of application data :(
     
  15. macrumors newbie

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    I found the solution to this for me was going into the Media folder within iPhone and deleting the files located in /Photos/Thumbs/ and then resyncing. In my case it was storing over 3 GB of picture information when there was much less than that in pictures.
     
  16. macrumors newbie

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    A portion of it appears to be corrupted sync files i.e. music, photo's etc due to a connection break while syncing. Restore
     
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    "Other" questions

    My phone keeps telling me it's out of space. Since I don't have that much stored, it seems unreasonable. I note that my "other" space is huge. I would expect that my audio is the stuff I have in itunes, and I recognize my apps space, but I can't put photos in because of space problems. Does anyone know what exactly is in the "other" file? How do I get rid of it? Would a fairly large address book be the reason my space is so limited?
     
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    Did you read the rest of this thread and the other threads on "other?"

    First, NO, an address book would have nothing to do with this.

    You're "other" is probably music or photos that didn't sync properly. You can try rebooting your phone (press home and power buttons until phone turns off and then resyncing. If that doesn't work, I'd suggest restoring in DFU mode and either restoring from a backup or restoring as new and resyncing, if the backup doesn't work.
     
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    "Other" questions

    Thanks Aggie
    I did a restore and now I have tons more space on my phone. Just a little bit of "other" there now. The programs work faster too.
     
  20. macrumors newbie

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    Solved the Corrupted "Other" issue:

    This is indeed a disconnect during sync and it is your iTunes music library that has been corrupted. If your phone is Jailbroken, you can SSH into it and manually remove your music from your iPhone and re-sync to dump it back on later. No need for a system restore.

    If your iPhone isn't jailbroken, you are **** out of luck! You may as well jailbreak while your restoring everything, at least you'll have better luck next time this bug manifests its ugly head.



     
  21. macrumors newbie

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    Step by step to delete music files?

    Betyar, thanks for the Tip! Can you provide a step by step to delete your iTunes music using ssh or terminal? Thanks again
     
  22. macrumors newbie

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    Here's the Hierarchy...

    The absolute easiest way to do this is using iFuntastic's 'File Manager'... Follow this path:

    /private/var/mobile/Media/iTunes_Control/Music/

    You will see a bunch of numbered folders. Delete all of them, reboot your device and re-sync with iTunes. DO NOT RESTORE YOUR DEVICE!

    Voila, the growing "other" and disappearing iTunes library bug solved - without a restore.


    Hope that helps.






     
  23. macrumors newbie

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    DUDE something went wrong I deleted these files you said and other was gone in my itunes....I have the audio, image and apps...but I went into my iphone and tried playing a song and it didn't play it..it just kicked me back to the song list whenever I touch play on a song...My music is showing up...and also in itunes but I can't play it...what is wrong??what should I do??

    thanks!
     
  24. macrumors newbie

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    That nasty bug

    pliundemix, Sorry to hear about your problem. That solution has worked for me in the past, without a hitch.

    I would suggest re-boot via a hard reset and check again. If that doesn't work, re-sync... then check again.

    Keep in mind, the expanding 'other' is your iTunes database that is corrupted, so you need to re-sync after the delete. Try again, and please keep me posted.

    Best of luck.


     
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    How do I make a "hard reset"??? Please help me cause this "other" won't go...just grows...
     

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