iPhoto Soooo confusing!!

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  1. macrumors regular

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    I just can't get my head around iPhoto on my new imac!!:(

    I transfered all my pics from my old pc. And pics I had on my ipad. And thought I had them all arranged nice and neatly in albums!
    Even created folders for say holiday snaps so I have sub folders for different holidays!

    But then there is the 'Events'. Which I just do not understand!
    Can I disable this? It just seems to complicate matters.
    For example. If I transfer pics from my ipad or iPhone to albums on my mac. I then notice that they all need sorting in events!

    And as for 'smart albums'. I tried creating one for movies. Dropped some in there and nothing!!:( so I just stick with folders so as to try and keep everything tidy!

    Maybe I'm a bit simple. But is there something I'm missing!!?!
    If someone could explain in lay mans terms I would most appreciate it!
     
  2. macrumors 6502

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    I found these resources helpful when first learning iPhoto

    http://help.apple.com/iphoto/index.html#pht4bac4114

    http://help.apple.com/iphoto/index.html#pht2297c8d2

    From the second link:
    You might also like the free videos included with iPhoto under Help>iPhoto Help>Lessons
     
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    nuckinfutz

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    Events are time based

    Albums are "catch all"

    iPhoto marries the best of managing events by time and allowing you to organize albums in whatever way you want.
     
  4. thread starter macrumors regular

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    Ahh. So maybe I'm doing it the wrong way round!

    Should I be concentrating on 'events' first. Then sorting pics into albums!?!!
     
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    nuckinfutz

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    Yup.

    Get your events cleaned up (meaning that those wedding pics shouldn't be intermingled with the fishing trip) then you can easily cherry pick the photos from the Events view into your Albums.

    It does take a bit of an adjustment if you're used to other photo programs but when you get the whole splicing and dicing of events down pat you can get it done quickly and then create interesting Albums that can then generate great slideshows and books.

    It can certainly be confusing at first.

    Having a clean set of events allows you to Geotag and Keyword tag groups of photos so much quicker as well.
     
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    Where do we set whether we want to sort by Events or Albums?
     
  7. macrumors 6502a

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    I love iPhoto's way of organising photos. But the way they are stored in the file-system is NOT nice at all and it's fairly easy to get a "broken" library.

    I really wish they would re-do the way iPhoto handles the photo-library.
     
  8. macrumors member

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    I have to agree. File management in iPhoto, including doing any sort of retouching in Photoshop, is rubbish. Sticking with Lightoom for now.
     
  9. macrumors member

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    I can't stand iPhoto. Apple really needs to rethink it...like iTunes ;)

    I'm also a Lightroom user.

    Good luck.
     
  10. macrumors 6502

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    Ditto. It's almost as if they intentionally make it difficult to get to the original file in the finder - requiring you to use the menu instead of the standard right-click.
     
  11. macrumors member

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    Bob right

    When you go to import photos from your camera, iPad, what ever, at the top of the window there is a check box asking if you wish to split events.

    I always split because it is easy to combine events. All you have to is drag one event onto another and it will combine them. Great for a weekend trip where you are not interest in having the photos stored as separate days.
     
  12. CrickettGrrrl, Dec 28, 2012
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    CrickettGrrrl

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    Organize your photos, albums, events within iPhoto, NOT the Finder. Seriously, messing with iPhoto folders in Finder is almost guaranteed to mess up your iPhoto library. Once that's done it's nearly impossible to fix without starting over again. Trust me, I done messed it up myself several years ago on a PowerBook.

    There was a really good thread here yesterday or the day before about how to think of iPhoto as a database with different ways of managing photos within it. I'll look for it.

    Here it is:
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1514326

    Look at Snberk103's comments about how iPhoto is a DAM, Data Asset Manager, then it'll start to make sense. Seriously good explanations here.

    If you're coming from Windows, I think the hardest thing for a new user to do is lay off messing with folders. Just let OS X handle folders for you in the background. :)

    Oh good! Snberk103 to the rescue. :)
     
  13. macrumors 603

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    Chuckstones: I do a fair bit of writing about iPhoto (and other Digital Asset Managers like Aperture and Lightoom). Do a search on my username... here is a thread you can start with... it links to another thread on this site. Link

    I'm a little short on time this morning, otherwise I'd write my usual essay....

    Also... Smart Albums are "Searches" - you don't drag things into them, when they are set up with your search terms photos will automatically appear. Read up on them, they are one of more powerful tools that iPhoto has for organizing photos. Apple has designed iPhoto so that you don't access to the original images. This a design feature to protect you from breaking the database. For now, respect the restriction and learn to use iPhoto as designed. That is my opinion, at least.
    That is by design. You are not supposed to be directly "file managing" your images with iPhoto. This is common with all Digital Asset Managers, such as Aperture and Lightroom. Because Aperture and Lightroom are aimed at the professional, they will let you "file manage" through the interface itself. When you muck about with your images directly you are risking corrupting your the database.
     
  14. macrumors regular

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    Voicing my opinion on the terrible file-management practices of iPhoto. Like others, I've messed up my library before because I was previously accustomed to being able to do things within the file structure, like delete an original if I only wanted the modified version.

    One reason I stay unhappy with the file-management system for iPhoto is it makes it nearly impossible to clean up your harddrive if one of the things you are trying to do is delete duplicate instances of a photo or video.

    Otherwise, I do like iPhoto. I just hate how easily it can be corrupted.
     
  15. macrumors 603

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    Please don't take this the wrong way.... but that is because you using it, um, not as designed....

    When you import a photo into iPhoto, that image stays untouched. Everything you do to that "original" is simply written to the database as instructions on what to do when you "Export" the image. Ideally, you will only have one copy of each "original" photo. By the way, when you delete that original you are also deleting the film equivalent of the negative.

    If you want to have several versions of the modified original, then the best course of action is to clone it (I forget what iPhoto calls it off-hand) but essentially it is a virtual copy. It does not exist, except as a note in the database. You make your editing modifications to these virtual copies. Therefore there are no duplicates. When you Export the image, then the new modified version is created. Generally, once I've used the image - in my website, in a brochure, whatever - I delete the exported copy. It is the exported version that is the duplicate that takes up space. I can recreate it whenever I want, so why clutter up my HDD?

    Gotta go... off for a couple of days...
     
  16. macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not "messing" with the files in the library. But the way it is now, I cannot set up my library on a NAS and have it shared with several Mac's because if the network for some reason goes down, you risk your library getting corrupted.

    At the current time, there's no way of safely sharing your library across several computers.
     
  17. panzer06, Dec 28, 2012
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    Nope you're not simple. I hate iPhoto and even Preview because of the way they handle changes and multiple iterations of the photo. I'd much prefer using an app that uses my directory structure and not move everything info some strange place and then when I make changes they aren't really new versions of the complete file. I'm with you on this. Never have liked iPhoto. The only thing I use it for is to check on sync'd photostream pics so I can export my files to a photos directory under my user account

    Cheers,
     
  18. halledise, Dec 28, 2012
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    Chuckstones - try Aperture 3.
    free trial, video tutorials online, $80 if you decide to keep it.
    all over iPhoto

    oops, no free trial anymore - but still a great app

    http://goo.gl/y8NOI
     
  19. macrumors 6502

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    That's great - but there are times when you want to do things with your iPhone pictures that require access to the original. Sure - I could select then export to another location but then I'm wasting storage unnecessarily.
     
  20. macrumors 603

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    Yes, sometimes you have to export to another location to do some things. Usually, I just delete these photos from that temporary export location once I'm done with them. I still have the originals, so there is no storage issue. For instance, if I need to put a Keynote presentation together, I may chose a bunch of photos... and export them to a folder that has all the material I'm pulling from to create the Keynote. Once the Keynote is done, I will either delete the whole folder or I will delete just the material that I didn't use and then zip up the folder and archive it. The Keynote, and the archive, are the final use.... everything else was just temporary. But of course, ymmv...
     
  21. macrumors 6502

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    Ahh yes, Events isn't my favorite feature either.

    I just ignore it. It's just there to catagorize your photos by the date they were taken. If your OCD is bad enough you could merge and delete events. :)

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    How so? I just surrendered my ways of manually controlling the file system and couldn't be happier.
     
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    Events caused me a headache initially. I saw them as folders to rename and move photos from one Event to another. I've now accepted that I need to ignore Events and leave them alone.

    But i do wish that iPhoto didn't default its display to Events in the way it does. I'd prefer to see a screen of Albums or Folders, with Events tucked away in the left column list.
     
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    Folders (directories) are very 1980s. As long as the asset is available does it really matter where the OS stores it?
     
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    No, but as I regard Events to be unimportant, I'd prefer to be able to choose to see Smart Albums on the main page rather than Events. Seeing as I always end up navigating to my albums.
     
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    I recommend the book "iPhoto - The Missing Manual" for a good explanation of how to do stuff in iPhoto. I readily before committing to storing everything in iPhoto.

    For backup, in addition to time machine copies of the library, I export all my images to an external drive. That way they can be read on other systems.
     

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