I can't decide between the two, so I'd like to hear anyone's suggestions. I would like the 80, it would fit my entire library of music (59gigs) and leave room to spare for photos & pictures taken from my digital camera. BUT it is 350$ and I'd want to get the applecare because I've had a first and third generation with hard drive failures and other issues because of my heavy useage. I've tried sticking with the shuffle since there's no sensitive hard drive but it only loads 1gig of stuff and I can't browse any music spur of the moment, only things I remember to load prior to using. Plus I run out of music on trips as well... The 60gig is very attractive because its only 230$ right now. If I limit my music collection to songs rated higher than 2 stars, I only have 42 gigs which still leaves room for photos, etc. Plus I can specifically load anything I want with a bit of management of my music collection. However, my wife is concerned that a refurbished iPod will crap out soon and I'll be dissappointed in the long run. Oh, what to do. Suggestions, thoughts?