iPod Classic and 576p?

Discussion in 'iPod' started by jofarmer, Sep 5, 2007.

  1. macrumors member

    Jan 18, 2006
    So, the new AV-cable states 576p.

    What does that mean? I am still on my 4G 20G iPod and would love to upgrade to the classic (no touch for me, thanks), if this news means that at last I would not have to resize my DVD videos from 720 to 640 pixels in width (which is why I never bought a video iPod up until now).

    Now, we all know that the 5G could do 640 with a simple firmware upgrade instead of 320, and the classic is a hardware redesign...

    As soon as anyone confirms that this pod will play 720x576 pixel progressive vidoes, I am out to buy one. If not, I will stay with my trusty 4G (that might even get a CF-card update sometime in the future)

    And yes, I checked the website, and it still clearly states 640 max width.

    Anyone already was able to lay hand on them and check? I might be dreaming, but as long as I can (no negative affirmation), I will.
  2. macrumors 6502a

    Jul 22, 2007
    Southern California
    I believe thats just EDTV, its just SD progressive scan. 576i is SD for PAL TV's so I would assume 576p is EDTV version of PAL. But I could be wrong.
  3. thread starter macrumors member

    Jan 18, 2006
    Well, considering your signature you will be able to tell me. :D

    Still the iPod woiuld have to upscale the 640x480 video to deliver a valid 576p. But I hope we are not talking about just upscaling it....
  4. macrumors 65816

    Tom B.

    Mar 22, 2006

    More details here.
  5. thread starter macrumors member

    Jan 18, 2006
    Thank you, Tom.

    Now we all know about the differences between interlaced and progressive mode, but maybe I wasn't clear about what I meant.

    640x480pixel (progressive, most probably) is NOT 576p (and not 576i either). Now, either the iPod Classic is now capable of 576p playback, or of upscaling his videos to 576p to deliver a valid 576p signal.

    I'd like to know which one it is.
  6. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 28, 2007
    New Jersey
    I don't see what the big deal is. I'm work with film and video all the time and am a stickler for quality. But either way - you're watching it on a portable device... some quality is going to be lost. The difference on that size screen isn't going to be so earth shattering b/w 720 & 640.
  7. thread starter macrumors member

    Jan 18, 2006
    Agreed. Especially since we are talking about a screen with a resoution of 320x240. But I do not want to convert every movie I have twice: once for the :apple:TV and once for the iPod. I want to have 1 Backup at the full quality the DVD offers (and an anamorphic conversion with H.264 or x264 at the full resolution and 1.5Mbps is pretty much en par with the original on the DVD) that I can take with me on my iPod. On my iPod that I can connect to a TV and watch the movie in full quality on. And I don't know about you, but to me that would be a big deal.

    Thats what I expect from a video iPod. And I don't think that is too much to ask. Especially when you do the maths:
    640x480=307200 is the maximum amount of pixels the iPod seems to be able to handle.
    720x426=306720, which is all I need, because all movies are widescreen today and don't use the full 576pixel, and it's even less pixels than 640x480. So there is eben no need to restrict the iPod to a horizontal resolution of 640pixels.

    Now all this has been discussed before I am sure. All I want to know is, if someone managed to get the iPod classic to output 576p.

    I woulnd't even mind if I could not watch it on the iPod's screen, just over cable output. On the road I use the iPod as a music player only.

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