iPod Father Tony Fadell 'Would Have Loved' to Show Nest to Steve Jobs

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Nest creator Tony Fadell, who formerly worked at Apple before starting Nest Labs and launching both a connected thermostat and smoke detector, has shared some details on both his experience at Apple and his encounters with Steve Jobs in a lengthy profile and interview with Fortune.

    Dubbed one of the "fathers of the iPod," Fadell started at Apple in 2001, moving on to become SVP of the company's iPod division from 2006 to 2008, where he helped produce early versions of the music player. Fadell clashed with Jobs and other executives at times, and says he had to "repeatedly quit" to get his way at the company.
    Jobs and Fadell reportedly had a relationship that "alternated between the father/son and school principal/naughty student archetypes." Fadell often argued with Jobs, who thought Fadell "asked too many questions," which would frustrate him. Fadell left Apple after marrying Danielle Lambert, a human resources executive who worked as a "super-key" recruiter.

    Fadell, who launched a stealth startup in home automation in 2010 that eventually lead to the ultra popular Nest, says that he wishes he had been able to tell Jobs about Nest. While they spoke about Fadell's startup, Jobs was very ill when the Nest was ready to launch.
    Nest went on to be acquired by Google in January of 2014, in a deal that netted the company $3.2 billion. Though now a Google employee, Fadell continues to operate Nest independently, budgeting one day a week to visit Google and learn how it can help Nest in the long run.

    The full profile of Tony Fadell, which includes more information on his history, the development of Nest, and his time at Apple, can be read over at Fortune.

    Article Link: iPod Father Tony Fadell 'Would Have Loved' to Show Nest to Steve Jobs
  2. macrumors 6502a

    Apr 26, 2005
    I would have loved for Jobs to have seen it. But, in a way I'm glad he didn't. If Apple saw the product, they would have bought Nest and the product wouldn't have come to market.
  3. macrumors 601


    Mar 2, 2012
    I'm sure a lot of people would've loved to show Steve Jobs a lot of things.
  4. macrumors 601


    Sep 21, 2010
    It seems like a neat product. It's too bad he sold out to Google. Undoubtedly Nest will serve Google ads some day.

    Before you laugh or call BS on me, it's right in Google's letter to the SEC:

    What a terrible vision of the future.
  5. macrumors member

    Apr 3, 2011
    I'm sure Steve would have been proud to hear that Nest was bought by Google. /s
  6. macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2011
  7. macrumors regular

    Jul 26, 2010
    Fadell sold out. Can't wait until my Nest starts showing me ads.
  8. macrumors 65816

    Jun 29, 2007
    Fadell is too childish about Forstall, anyway, go Worldcup go!
  9. macrumors 6502a


    Jul 27, 2012
  10. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 23, 2007
    Good luck to him. He had a vision and developed it into billions of $$

    As if no one here would sell their business to Google if the price was right. :rolleyes:
  11. macrumors G5


    Nov 14, 2011
    Why do I get the feeling Fadell is probably one of the reasons Apple didn't go after Nest? I've always wondered why Steve brought in Mark Papermaster (whose roll eventually transferred to Bob Mansfield) rather than giving the job to Fadell. Perhaps they didn't get along and that's one reason Fadell left?
  12. macrumors 65816


    May 20, 2002
    Dallas, TX USA
    This is why I recently purchased a Honeywell thermostat. Yeah it doesn't do all of what the Nest does, but it's enough. And Google won't know when I'm home or not. :mad:
  13. macrumors 65816

    Jul 6, 2007
    Fadell's version of iPhone OS lost to Forstall's version of iPhone OS.
  14. macrumors member

    Jan 8, 2008
  15. macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
    They gave a real kick in the arse to the smart-thermostat market.

    To the point Honeywell launched a pretty obvious mimic.
  16. macrumors regular

    Mar 6, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Exactly. Apple lost a visionary when this guy left. Who knows? perhaps there would be something else new and useful he would have created...now it will be a Google product.
  17. macrumors G5


    Nov 14, 2011
    Except Fadell's bio on Nest's website says he led the team that developed the first 3 generations of iPhone.

    Tony led the team that created the first 18 generations of the iPod and the first three generations of the iPhone. Before Apple, Tony built the Mobile Computing Group at Philips Electronics. Tony has authored more than 300 patents. He graduated from the University of Michigan with a Bachelors in Computer Engineering.


    My question still stands: Fadell was head of the iPod division at Apple. If he was so valuable, why did Jobs go external and hire Papermaster instead of giving Fadell that job?
  18. macrumors 6502

    Jun 13, 2011
    As opposed to your iPhone relaying iBeacon-pushed ads?
  19. macrumors 6502

    Dec 26, 2011
    Now that the company is sold, get out and start another with Apple:D
  20. macrumors 68020

    Nov 15, 2011
    Wow, that's quite some insight you've got there. :D
  21. macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

    Jul 16, 2002
    None of which actually explains the editorial "ultra popular" description.
  22. macrumors 68030


    Feb 2, 2004
    Pacific Northwest
    Fadell lost the moment the guy suggested Linux. He didn't do his homework. We vetted Linus to work on the Darwin Kernel during Rhapsody days, and Torvalds wanted autonomy over a seasoned team of experts far more knowledgeable than himself.

    He wasn't hired. And Steve quickly shut down the MkLinux project, after we bootstrapped Openstep/Rhapsody to PPC.
  23. macrumors regular

    Oct 25, 2011
    I love(d) my Nest, but the day after the announcement they sold out to Google, I disconnected it from the network. Now it's just a beautiful dumb-thermostat, but at least I can still use it (minus remote management and reports) and no data is being sent to/from Nest/Google.

    It's a shame, really. Nest didn't sell their product to Google, they sold the trust of their customers, and that was a really slimy thing to do. Ah well, I'd probably sell the soul of my beloved creation and the trust of my customers for $3.2B also.
  24. macrumors 68000


    Nov 3, 2010
    Nest is now a collectors item thats largely fading out after initial fan fare
  25. macrumors Core

    Oct 17, 2011
    Somehow most people likely don't care if Google knows that they are heating or cooling their place.

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