iPod Nano will never be as sucessful as the iPod mini.

[jayscheuerle]

why? they were a fad because they came in so many colours. young girls and women were all over them. you had to have one, cos the pink 'is so cute!'. the fact that these only come in black and white, added with the fact that the shape isn't as appealing, leads me to believe that this won't be as successful. thoughts?

Yeah, but now they have BLACK and think of all the young boys and geeks all over them who have to have one cos the black 'is so hot!'.

All the little cybernerd boys will eat the black ones off the shelves and these are the kind of dorks that ALREADY HAVE AN IPOD!

I don't think Steve's sweating this one...

 

[1macker1]

Nano sells not going as well as expected.

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1270

 

[minimax]

Ummm...wasn't the original ipod the first large capacity player that was truly portable? No one thought the original ipod was big until the mini came out...

There were flash players on the market already, those were really portable. The mini was the first HD based player that had the dimensions of a flash player. You don't stick an iPod in the pocket of your jeans, that's my point.

 

[BrianKonarsMac]

why? they were a fad because they came in so many colours. young girls and women were all over them. you had to have one, cos the pink 'is so cute!'. the fact that these only come in black and white, added with the fact that the shape isn't as appealing, leads me to believe that this won't be as successful. thoughts?

i think you don't know what you are talking about.

the most popular color was...omg silver?

so a couple of 11 year old girls won't buy it because it doesn't come in pink...but then their friends will get one, and all of the sudden they will need it regardless of whether or not it comes in pink.

then apple will sell them the pink cover (nano tube).

rejoice.

 

[G wizz]

Duff-Man says.....Apple are going to sell *so* many of these iPod Nano things.....


yeah just in time for xmas

 

[stevep]

Apple will sell shedloads of Nano's. They fit into the iPod line up perfectly, and they're more robust than the iPod mini (important factor for schoolkids). And just for interest, here's one reason why they fit in perfectly....

 

[dops7107]

And just for interest, here's one reason why they fit in perfectly....

What happens if you put the previous iPod Mini prices into that graph? Do they fit in so well, or were they a relative bargain in terms of £/GB? Maybe Apple wised up and tought they could charge more for less, so to speak.

 

[shadowmoses]

What happens if you put the previous iPod Mini prices into that graph? Do they fit in so well, or were they a relative bargain in terms of £/GB? Maybe Apple wised up and tought they could charge more for less, so to speak.

They definatly are not charging more for less as the Nano's cost far more to manufacture than iPod Mini's this is mainly due to:

-2 and 4gb Flash memory have you seen how expensive flash memory of that size is, far more than 4gb micro hard drives.
-Nano is smaller and has a colour screen, more expensive than mini's...

I can guarentee you that apple have a lower profit margin on the Nano than they had on the iPod mini,

ShadOW

 

[dops7107]

They definatly are not charging more for less as the Nano's cost far more to manufacture than iPod Mini's this is mainly due to:

[snip]

I neevr said they cost less to make. Evidently, given the price, the nanos cost more to make than an equivalent Mini. But my point remains: the customer is getting less for more. Unless you value sleekness, wow factor and a colour screen. Which I do, up to a point, but I personally would rather wait until £/GB decreases.

 

[Lord Blackadder]

I neevr said they cost less to make. Evidently, given the price, the nanos cost more to make than an equivalent Mini. But my point remains: the customer is getting less for more. Unless you value sleekness, wow factor and a colour screen. Which I do, up to a point, but I personally would rather wait until £/GB decreases.

I do value sleekness, wow factor and a color screen over the extra capacity, so for me the Nano is more attractive than the Mini. Personally my 1GB Shuffle is more capacity than I'll ever need; I mostly use my iPod in the car and only need enough songs to get me through my daily commute. The Nano will sell every bit as well as the Mini did, rest assured.

 

[stevep]

for dops7107:
I really must get out more.........

Model £/Gb
Shuffle 512 138.00
Shuffle 1Gb 89.00
Nano 2Gb 69.50
Nano 4Gb 44.75
mini 4Gb 34.75
mini 6Gb 28.17
iPod 20 Gb 10.45
iPod 60Gb 4.98

 

[dops7107]

for dops7107:
I really must get out more.........

Thanks! You saved me the bother The Minis fit in the gap rather nicely, don't they? I suspect in time the gaps will be filled in by price shifting. I'm sitting on the fence for now

Don't worry, the fact that I wondered about it makes me just as nerdy.

 

[stevep]

They do fit in the graph, but they're probably not really in the right sequence. If you look at the figures you'll see that the Nano is about 25% more expensive than the old mini (comparing the 4Gb model). Which ties in with the comments from Shadowmoses above re flash vs disk storage.
But then theres the colour screen factor as well.......(brain starting to hurt slightly now).

 

[illegalprelude]

Funny enough, it was my little brother who cared the most about which color he wanted. After buying a pair of Seven jeans and other such designer clothes, he decided to get a pink iPod, because pink is the new fad with his slacker 15 year-old snowboarding friends. He was very disappointed when he could only get green, because that doesn't impress girls. It's a very fashion conscious world these high schoolers live in, and I definitely believe that guys care just as much as girls do (although they don't show it as much) because of the huge new pressure to be more metrosexual.

hate to tell you, has nothing to do with fashon or mextrosexual. your brother is gay

 

[ShiggyMiyamoto]

hate to tell you, has nothing to do with fashon or mextrosexual. your brother is gay

I hope you were joking... That was sorta harsh. There's nothing wrong with being gay. He may not have had a choice. I've seen plenty of guys with the florescent pink Mini. That doesn't make them necessarily gay.

ok gotta run.. I have a train to catch...

 

[yellow]

the fact that these only come in black and white, added with the fact that the shape isn't as appealing, leads me to believe that this won't be as successful. thoughts?

3rd party skins in all sorts of colors will take care of that.. the nano in paisley!

 

[840quadra]

3rd party skins in all sorts of colors will take care of that.. the nano in paisley!

I prefer "parsley" but that is just me

 

[yellow]

I prefer "parsley" but that is just me

The color, the flavor, or the garnish?

 

[840quadra]

The color, the flavor, or the garnish?

All 3, but a little less on #2

 

[Chef Medeski]

Yikes, Mad Jew! I don't think Apple's even played that angle...

But, I really think that the Nano will be a smashing success. The whole superficial girls flocking towards the Mini is completely overblown, and hopelessly stereotypical.

I don't know about that, everyone I have girl who have told me about their Minis say they are cute and thats why they bought them. I ask how much music is on? Ohh just a couple CDs, about 3 hours. That is what I call a complete waste of money.

 

[cr2sh]

In the past day I've seen an ipod nano commercial on TV and heard an ipod nano commecial coming from the mouth of Howard Stern.

They are advetising it far better then before... and for that reason I think they'll sell more. The commercials of dancing mac colors is gone... yay.

 

[reberto]

Colour nanos within 18 months. What are the odds?

Besides, I never liked the pink Minis and neither did anyone else I know.

Hay, I had a pink mini. If you ever got a scratch on it, it was hard to see. I got rid of it for $120 and bought some Xbox games

 

[shadowmoses]

I don't know about that, everyone I have girl who have told me about their Minis say they are cute and thats why they bought them. I ask how much music is on? Ohh just a couple CDs, about 3 hours. That is what I call a complete waste of money.

Its funny but i know some people with 20gb iPods who have filled like 700mb of it, and they don't intend to increase much, alot of people do not realise the true value of iPods they just buy them and load up a few albums,

ShadOW

 

[~loserman~]

why? they were a fad because they came in so many colours. young girls and women were all over them. you had to have one, cos the pink 'is so cute!'. the fact that these only come in black and white, added with the fact that the shape isn't as appealing, leads me to believe that this won't be as successful. thoughts?

Your kidding right?

The nano is a bad name but they will outsell the mini.
Smaller form factor, no hard drive.

 

[seriypshick]

My sister likes nano

Before she wouldn't even look at mini. But after nano came out she can't stop talking about it; propably gonna buy it very soon.