Okay, so I'm not concerned about what the refresh will hold (true video, etc.) I'm just wondering if the common concensus out there is that there will or will not be a refresh to the iPod line before thanksgiving. The buyer's guide for iPods has become impossible to decipher so I'm hoping you guys will help me out. I want the latest and greatest iPod for a 3.5hr flight on Nov 26th. What are the chances that if I buy one today, that wont be true on 11/26? Thanks!