I noticed something about using the iPod Shuffle in manual mode. If you transfer lets say 30 songs to your shuffle via iTunes, the shuffle takes em fine. However, if you remove those 30 songs from your iTunes music library.. the next time you plug in your shuffle.. the shuffle updates to zero songs.. y does apple do this..
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iPod iPod Shuffle Weirdness
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I found it weird at first as well, but this is how I made sense of it:
The iPod shuffle is like a portable "Party Shuffle" playlist. It is not meant to carry your songs like the regular iPods, but instead its a way to take a playlist with you.
Look at the interface of the iPod Shuffle and Party Shuffle, they are remarkably similar. If you were to remove songs from your library that was in the Party Shuffle, those would disappear as well.
Just my $0.02
The iPod shuffle is like a portable "Party Shuffle" playlist. It is not meant to carry your songs like the regular iPods, but instead its a way to take a playlist with you.
Look at the interface of the iPod Shuffle and Party Shuffle, they are remarkably similar. If you were to remove songs from your library that was in the Party Shuffle, those would disappear as well.
Just my $0.02
CubaTBird said:
What you are describing has ticked off many of my friends who are just now starting to dabble with ipods and itunes. Apple needs to address this problem. A warning dialog box would be nice, giving you the option of re-syncing or leaving the ipod as is. Then there should be the ability to quickley transfer songs from your ipod to your music library.
it's called Syncing.. when you Sync you transfer both ways.. unfortunately the ipod has the syncing one way off. from ipod -> computer.. but that means that if those songs are no longer in your library it assumes you no longer listen to them and as such takes them off.. it makes perfect sense to me.
it doesn't just do this with the ipod shuffle either.. it does it with ALL ipods. that's just the way it works
it doesn't just do this with the ipod shuffle either.. it does it with ALL ipods. that's just the way it works
It's kind of a bummer for people who have older computer hardware and large music collections.
A colleague of mine recently purchased an 20GB iPod, with the intention of filling it up with music from his CD collection. He uses a laptop computer that's probably five years old, and its hard drive is maybe 4 GB. He was very dismayed when he found that Apple didn't seem to want him to be able to put his music on the iPod and then remove it from his small laptop hard drive to conserve space.
I suggested to him that he try going into the folder on his computer that contains his iTunes library and delete the music files there, rather than deleting them within iTunes itself. So far that seems to be doing fine as a work-around.
A colleague of mine recently purchased an 20GB iPod, with the intention of filling it up with music from his CD collection. He uses a laptop computer that's probably five years old, and its hard drive is maybe 4 GB. He was very dismayed when he found that Apple didn't seem to want him to be able to put his music on the iPod and then remove it from his small laptop hard drive to conserve space.
I suggested to him that he try going into the folder on his computer that contains his iTunes library and delete the music files there, rather than deleting them within iTunes itself. So far that seems to be doing fine as a work-around.
apple_iBoy said:
if i recall correctly you can fix this issue by simply saying you'll manually update your ipod... plug the ipod in, the little "ipod" icon in the lower right corner. select manually manage songs and playlists.
from there it will not remove songs without you doing so and it will not add song s until you do so. simple fix.. it won't remove songs if they aren't in your library either.
Logik said:
Oh yeah, I forgot to add a pertinent detail about that. He was at first doing the manual synching, but the problem was he kept forgetting to de-mount the iPod before unplugging it (he's a little older and forgetful!). So after he did that for about the 3rd or 4th time, we came upon this other solution.
This is all done because of the record labels. Think about it. If you could sync an iPod to a machine going from ipod to computer, anyone with a full ipod could transfer songs to anyone they wanted to. Think of this as the way Palm software works. With Palm you can choose whice device overwrites the other, in essence, this is not "syncing" the information. Technically the ipod synced with the itunes playlist. If you were to have an ipod full of music, say for instance you dumper you itune library to the ipod because you were reformatting your hard drive, you would not be able to get the music back into itunes with out using something like ollies ipod extractor.
my 3rd gen ipod is in manual.. and even if i add a song, then remove it from my library.. my ipod doesn't change at all when i plug it back and relaunch itunes.. which is great.. i want that with the shuffle.. the shuffle really has no manual mode.. which stinks...
CubaTBird said:
uhm.. yes the shuffle does.. its exactly the same way you setup the 3rd gen you have. Do as i said.
Plug it in, click the iPod icon in the lower right corner of iTunes. Select Manually manage songs and playlists. Heck, i am doing it right now with mine, works great.