Is British National Gallery's New Raphael a Fake?

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  1. eyelikeart Moderator emeritus

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    This makes me wonder a lot about what I've seen in the few museums I've been to. I read somewhere that a lot of the pieces, both art & historical, that we see in museums are indeed fake.

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    Yeah well...

    I don't know...

    How do you know at all of the what 30, 40 copys in the world which is the real one... :confused:


    $41... geez thats a lot... :eek:
     
  5. jrv3034 macrumors 6502a

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    You'd think they'd be certain before plunking down that much cash... Hey, I believe my G5 is a DaVinci original... I'll let you have it for only $50,000! ;)
     
  6. wdlove macrumors P6

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    Luckily the art that I own was purchased directly from the artist. So all my collection is real.
     
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    25 experts think it is real. One who didn't agree went to the press. That doesn't convince me.

    I designed some artwork that hangs proudly on the wall at our house. I drew it freehand, scanned it, scaled it, vector traced it, sent it to a plastic shop, and had them cut it out of acrylic. So I know who the artist is. Unless a really clever forger was impersonating me when I did all this!
     
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    Yeah... I don't get what the fuss is about...
    Most say its real... go with the 25 people...
     
  9. absolut_mac macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe that's not the whole story...

    I remember here in LA a few years ago, the Getty museum got an expensive 2000 year old Greek statue on consignment. After many months and more than a few experts had examined it, they determined that it was genuine and paid the seller.

    Some *expert* in Europe saw a picture of it and immediately determined that said Greek statue was a fake.

    How come he was right - keeping in mind that he only saw a pic - and the other experts who examined it up close and in person were wrong?

    Simple, he said that the headgear that said Greek statue was sporting wasn't available until a couple of hundred years after said statue was supposedly sculpted.

    Needless to say when the Getty tried to contact the seller he had disappeared with their money - around ten million dollars if I remember correctly.

    The bottom line - Nobody know everything, period!!!
     
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    I wondered if absolut_mac's story was an urban legend, so I asked someone who studied art history and follows art news. Sure enough, the Getty was fooled when it bought the Greek statue. Sorry for doubting you, absolut_mac!
     
  11. absolut_mac macrumors 6502a

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    No probelm

    Hey, no problem. When in doubt, always try and find out.

    The only time I have a problem with anyone who doubts me - or anyone else for that matter - is when they are ignorant on that subject and make absolutely no effort to find out.

    Unfortunately too many of the above around these days!!!
     
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    1) There was a painter during WWII that was an acknowledged forger and quite a master at faking Rembrants and similar paintings. His paintings are very valuable today because they are rare hard to tell from authentic old masters. He lived the high life in Vichy France selling fakes to Germans and escaped prosecution for collusion by claiming he was ripping them off.

    2) Who cares if its authentic as long as it is pretty?

    *shrug*
     
  13. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    ah some people have to have the original even if the 2ed one is good.

    Its a statis thing...

    Who knows, maybe the British gallery wanted to publize this, but with this ONe person who says is itsn't maybe they can't claims its real?


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