Is it legal/ethical to sell a Mac bought with an educational discount?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by milky23, Jan 28, 2006.

  1. milky23 macrumors regular

    Oct 23, 2005
    Hey there... I am getting my iMac G5 (which was purchased with the educational $200 discount) replaced with a new model and was considering selling it so I can upgrade to the macbook. Does Apple have any legal and/or ethical beefs with such a thing?

    edit: also, is there any license i may have agreed to which prohibits my doing so?

  2. Marlon_JBT macrumors 6502

    Sep 22, 2003
    Detroit, Michigan
    I don't see anything wrong with this. It's just a discount...

    It's not illegal to sell a car which you got a military discount for.... (as an example)
  3. fartheststar macrumors 6502a


    Dec 29, 2003
    As far as ethics are concerned, as long as you didn't buy it just to sell it to make a profit.

    I hate seeing all these sellers on eBay selling versions "just like" the full versions of software. Basically they buy edu software in bulk and try to pawn it off at a profit. To me that's no good.

    But I don't think you're doing anything wrong since your intention has changed since the intel product announcement.
  4. stridey macrumors 65816


    Jan 21, 2005
    Massachusetts, Connecticut
    No matter how much (or little) you payed for it originally, it's now yours, and you're entitled to sell it for as much as the market will bear.
  5. bbarnhart macrumors 6502a


    Jan 16, 2002
    Stilwell, Kansas
    One time a few years ago I wanted to learn Java so I took a class at a local community college (in fact, it was right across the street from where I was working). Mac OS X had just come out and there was a significant discount for students. I went to the school's bookstore and they had a copy. And, I was a student. I was taking a Java class. Score!

    I bought the educational version of MS Office for the Mac. It was, uh, for my daughter. Yeah. Um, she was in kindergarten, but I don't see how that was an issue. She did use the computer.
  6. Flyinace2000 macrumors 6502a


    Sep 28, 2004
    I say you are OK as long as your buying a new mahcine every 4 weeks.
  7. emaja macrumors 68000

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Since they limit the number a machine you can buy to one of each type per year, there is no way that someone could turn that much of a profit on it.

    Go ahead and sell it. You bought it and used it, now it is time to sell it. So what?
  8. janey macrumors 603


    Dec 20, 2002
    sunny los angeles
    well no, it's more complicated than that:

    Desktop: One (1) may be purchased per academic year
    Mac mini: One (1) may be purchased per academic year
    Laptop: One (1) may be purchased per academic year
    Display: A maximum of two (2) may be purchased per academic year
    Software: A maximum of two (2) per software title may be purchased per academic year
    iPod: One (1) per iPod family (iPod, iPod nano, iPod Shuffle 1GB) may be purchased per academic year (Note: there is no quantity limitation on iPod Shuffle 512MB)
    iSight: One (1) may be purchased per academic year
  9. iEdd macrumors 68000


    Aug 8, 2005
    You answered one of my thoughts there too. I wasn't sure whether it meant a year apart, or an academic year. I guess you could buy one in december, then one in January then.
  10. emaja macrumors 68000

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    I was not specific enough, and that is what I should have referenced, but yes, you are correct.

    Still not enough to make a profit really, so back to the original question, yes it is ethical to sell a Mac you bought with your educational discount.
  11. homerjward macrumors 68030


    May 11, 2004
    fig tree
    i believe for these purposes "academic year" means july-june.
  12. milky23 thread starter macrumors regular

    Oct 23, 2005
  13. Eidorian macrumors Penryn


    Mar 23, 2005
    I'm in the same boat. I bought my iMac G5 Rev. B with $200 off in education discounts. I was bitten by the Apple bug and switched. In retrospect I probably should have gotten a Mac mini but I love the iMac's power and size. I want an Apple laptop though and I'm a power user of computers. I don't need the power but I want[/b it. :D

    I'll be selling my iMac, Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse, and iLife 06 later this summer if an Intel iBook comes out or just save up and get a MacBook Pro. I've grown to lowe Voodoo Pad for note taking and the new Inte chips give Apple a mobile power edge again.
  14. cgratti macrumors 6502a


    Dec 28, 2004
    Central Pennsylvania, USA
    if you could sell it for $10,000, more power to you.....

    nothing wrong with that...

    I'd sell mine if someone offered me enough to buy a new iMac.
  15. solvs macrumors 603


    Jun 25, 2002
    LaLaLand, CA
    They used to have it in their FAQ, but it isn't there anymore. As long as you don't sell it for a profit, which you won't, I guess it's probably ok.
  16. Xephian macrumors 6502a


    May 2, 2005
    United States
    Nothing wrong with selling your own belongings.
  17. powerbook911 macrumors 68040


    Mar 15, 2005
    A few years ago I got an iBook with edu discount and then needed to sell it right away, for I had not got all the BTO I wanted.

    They told me on the phone (Apple several times) that I could sell my computer anytime I want, and it didn't matter I had bought with edu discount.
  18. tk26 macrumors newbie

    Jan 21, 2006
    hey guys does anyone know if the student discount includes no sale taX?
  19. johnnybluejeans macrumors 6502

    Jan 16, 2006
    New York, NY
    Put it this way, it's not like Apple is selling you computers at a loss when they give you the educational discount.

    Yes, you still have to pay tax.
  20. Spanky Deluxe macrumors 601

    Spanky Deluxe

    Mar 17, 2005
    London, UK
    Does anyone know where those official "one per academic year" details are? I've been trying to find them for my housemate because I was trying to tell him that if he buys Apple he can buy an Apple computer with edu discount, sell it in a year and buy a new one on edu discount and it should cost him relatively little to keep up to date that way.

    BTW one thing I noticed a few days ago was that the Educational discount still applies to Xserves. The Xserve Raid 7TB for example costs £9399 over here while the Educational price is £8270.83. With my Uni Student discount it drops down to a little over £7600. Which is £1800 of savings! That's crazy. Mind you, I don't know what a student like myself would do with a 7TB Xserve Raid Server!!
  21. cwedl macrumors 65816


    Jun 5, 2003
    Yeah, I sold a Mac Mini on eBay I bought with an educational discount, I basically had it for 6 months and didn't loose any money on it!
  22. e²Studios macrumors 68020


    Apr 12, 2005
    If you have to ask it probably isnt legal/right/ethical.

    Most academic versions of applications have a clause in the agreement that you cannot resell them. I am not sure if this applies to hardware but I do know most all major software vendors state this very clearly in their EULA.

  23. yankeefan24 macrumors 65816


    Dec 24, 2005
    What are the limitations to the student discount. If i were taking college classes at night once a week would i still be qualified? Apple isnt very clear about it online. What are the exact limitations. It says you have to be in college or university. I'm really confused.

    This is all hypothetical btw.
  24. joepunk macrumors 68030


    Aug 5, 2004
    a profane existence
    For Washington State Sales Tax it roughly was the same amount as what the student discount took off from my PB.
  25. e²Studios macrumors 68020


    Apr 12, 2005

    As long as you are enrolled you are eligible. 3 units or 15 units it doesn't matter to Apple, what does matter is that you are currently enrolled and can prove it.


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