Is it possible to completely remove OS X using bootcamp?

Discussion in 'Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac' started by kahos, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. kahos macrumors member

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    The reason im asking is pretty simple : I went to my local best buy today to check out the macbook pro. I noticed the computer was running windows so I asked the salesperson if i could switch it back to OSX . He said that would not be possible since they completely deleted OS X from the system and it can only run windows now... Is this even possible?
     
  2. MacRumorsReader macrumors member

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    It is possible and you don't need Boot Camp to do it. All Boot Camp is, is a glorified partitioner (well, the drivers are the key). Once you have the drivers, you could quit out of boot camp and install XP and erase and reformat the entire drive as NTSF.
     
  3. kahos thread starter macrumors member

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    oh I thought you needed bootcamp for the EFI compatibility layer or wtv
    Well thanks for clearing that up :)
     
  4. kainjow Moderator emeritus

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    The BIOS compatibility in EFI comes from the firmware update, which is required to run Boot Camp, which is a setup assistant that burns a drivers CD and partitions your drive. You only need the firmware update to run Windows, but Apple won't tell you that :p
     
  5. Laser47 macrumors 6502a

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    You can sill reinstall OSX on a computer even after its been deleted.

    Oh and BTW dont listen to anything the people at bestbuy say, especially about macs. Most of the people who work there know very little about computers, this doesnt apply to everyone working at bestbuy (but most of them)
    I went into one bestbuy looking for a bluetooth mouse and my dad asked one of the sales people "Do you guys have any bluetooth mice for mac's", he promptly said "Macs arent compatible with bluetooth". Trying not to laugh in the guys face I left since they didint even have Bluetooth mice anyway, and I picked up a MX1000 somewhere else.

    I wonder when apple will start getting support calls from people who installed windows on their computers and deleted OSX and then got a virus.
     
  6. SilentPanda Moderator emeritus

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    I wonder if Apple knows about this... seems like something they would highly frown upon. Then again being Best Buy it could be an ignorant salesperson.
     
  7. jdechko macrumors 68040

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    Yeah, I was thinking that. I'm sure that Best Buy would get in a lot of trouble with Apple if they didn't have an OS X demo machine available. I wonder if Apple are going to have to change their Authorized Reseller agreements now... Something like you have to have at least x% of your machines running OS X, or we'll yank your status. That would really suck for BB if that happened, as they'd probably lose the ability to sell iPods.

    Apple will simply tell the person tough cookies and tell them to call MS support (haha). Windows is unsupported on Apple machines.
     
  8. Scottyk9 macrumors 6502a

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    "...the horror, the horror...."

    Joseph Conrad
     
  9. laidbackliam macrumors 6502

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    i think bootcamp is an interesting idea.



    that said, ITS NOT TOUCHING MY MACBOOK.


    at all.

    i'd get drunk and delete my osX partition.


    and i bought my mac to get away from windows, not to say "oh hey, i can, um, have windows again"
     
  10. janey macrumors 603

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    considering how the intel macs are now just glorified PCs made by apple, i dont know why you'd be screwing yourself over temporarily buying an intel mac just to run only windows (cause, apple makes bootcamp, and until MS releases an EFI compatible version of Windows, you're relying on Apple). also, it would just be easier and cheaper to build something similar.

    That being said, I've met a handful of best buy & geek squad people who do sorta know stuff. i have more trouble with idiot employees at fry's (some are REALLY sexist) than i do at best buy.

    Also, your question would be better if it was just simply "do you guys have any bluetooth mice?", cause unlike keyboards (where the only difference tends to be the windows/apple key), it doesnt matter with mice usually (unless you mean drivers, in that case either jsut use usb overdrive or bug the manufacturer for one). Last time I was at best buy looking to play around with their mice before buying one online, i think they did have the mx1000, but they didn't have the g7 which was the one i wanted to play around with. Nevertheless, i purchased a G7, sorta happy with it, great mouse, sucky that it doesn't have enough buttons.
     
  11. rdowns Suspended

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    Death
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    Ignorant BB salespeople
     
  12. yellow Moderator emeritus

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    Best Buy, what an oxymoron, but that's another thread..

    I'm glad I wasn't there when Johnny Highschool said this to you, I wouldn't have been liable for any physical damage I might have done to Johnny, Best Buy, or it's merchandise.
     
  13. FF_productions macrumors 68030

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    First off, it's crazy enough to run windows on a mac.

    Secondly, delete OSX, and only have windows...

    What a nightmare.

    I know your just wondering if it's possible, I'm just saying if somebody actually did that, it would be crazy.

    Macs are already expensive as it is, it would be silly to buy a mac just to put windows on it and ignore OSX.
     
  14. The Truth macrumors regular

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    I once overheard a conversation with a salesperson in Australia that went like this... "no we don't deal with Macs here, they're too unreliable. If you connect to the internet on a mac you will be full of viruses in 4 minutes".

    So I guess people are ignorant wherever you go.
     
  15. dejo Moderator

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    If by glorified, you mean the only ones capable of running Mac OS X, then yes.
     
  16. bgd78 macrumors newbie

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    Actually, I'm one of I believe many contemplating buying a Mac strictly for Windows use and IMO it does make a lot of sense, at least when most of the current driver issues become resolved...

    I don't think any current PC laptop can quite match the MBP in design and build quality and the few that come close, like some Asus laptops, cost the same or even more performance wise...

    As for desktops, I can see a lot of reasons why a Windows user would prefer an iMac (which isn't terribly expensive) over a standard PC desktop. Again, like with the MBP it's hard to find a PC equivalent to the iMac in terms of design...
     
  17. ilkevinli macrumors 6502

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    I am a WinXP user and I bought a MacBook Pro to just run windows on. I won't delete OS X because its cool to play with and I do like to learn new things, but I will primarily using WinXP (99% of the time). I have always said Apple has the nicest looking notebooks.


     
  18. Steve1496 macrumors 6502a

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    You bought an expensive computer and are going to rely on beta software for day to day computing?:confused:
     
  19. ilkevinli macrumors 6502

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    Beta software ? What software would that be ? Bootcamp is only for Partitioning and making a driver CD. Everything else is in the Firmware.

    Windows runs just as good on an apple computer as it does on a non-apple computer.


     
  20. jkballer23 macrumors member

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    As far as I know they don't have any support when it comes to installing XP on your mac besides the apple discussion forums.
     
  21. Laser47 macrumors 6502a

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    Is it just me or is anyone else getting annoyed when there are all these posts about people needing help regarding to windows. I know we have a separate section for this, but this is MacRumors after all. And Apple computers are running windows arent really macs. I think we should atleast have a separate section on the side of the front page, Windows running on the mac is not mac software (unless you count the virtualizer program.
     
  22. jmsait19 macrumors 6502

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    bleh...
     
  23. Stridder44 macrumors 68040

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    I'll just run DOS on my MacBook and play MUDs......w00t!


    /Can you even play MUDs in DOS?
     

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