Is Religion the Root of All Evil?

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  1. munkle macrumors 68030

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    A two part mini-series, written and presented by Richard Dawkins, is being shown in the UK exploring the question, is religion the root of all evil?

    The bulk of the show (the first episode anyhow) was dedicated to showing how religion is fundamentally opposed to the scientific approach to gaining knowledge about the world. And how faith and science are basically incompatible.

    I posted a couple clips on my site. One where Dawkins talk to Ted Haggard and another where he talks to a Islamic fundamentalist who converted from Judaism. Doesn't make for pretty viewing.

    Here's the linkety linky. Feel free to join in on the discussions.
     
  2. skunk macrumors G4

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    Without having visited your link, I would venture that, just as the correct original quote is "the love of money is the root of all evil", so the love of religion is likewise.
     
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    Interesting link, and an interesting topic. For the moment, I still cast my vote for "root" with "I want what you have-ism" or "avarice".
     
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    As it's for television they've obviously gone for an inflammatory tabloid-esque title. The real question being posed by Dawkins I guess is whether science and religion can co-exist.
     
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    As an atheist, I'd like to offer:

    no way. Not even close. Religion encompasses almost all of humanity for almost all of history, so it's contributed an endless variety of evil, bad, good, etc.

    Same for science, defined as the pursuit of knowledge by experimentation and observation. It's led to an endless variety of results.

    And the idea that religion and science are opposites is more than a little annoying.
     
  7. silverback66 macrumors regular

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    This is just propaganda. People who believe it could point to the crusades and say see SEE!?!?! People on the other side could show how science led to the invention of the nuclear bomb and all other killing devices. I don't think it's even a debatable point.
     
  8. ~Shard~ macrumors P6

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    Religon causes wars, science builds the weapons to fight those wars. There's not much difference really. :cool:
     
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    Yes there is. One is the reason, and the other provides the means.


    I thought it was women. :eek:
     
  10. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    Religion rarely "causes" wars. It is often used in rationalization for wars, if not invariably. But the root causes tend to be power, money, resources.
     
  11. silverback66 macrumors regular

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    Religion also helps billions of people all over the world and many of those who attend church donate money every single week to help others.
     
  12. emw macrumors G4

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    No - evil is the root of all religion. Why would you need religion if you didn't have evil?
     
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    Profound! :p
     
  14. silverback66 macrumors regular

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    If by religion you do in fact mean religion then you're right if you mean religion as in faith then you're not because Adam and Eve existed before evil and still had a intimate relationship with God.
     
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    Although I'd agree that religion has caused some pretty messed up and unfortunate situations, I think that if religion is treated properly, and as long as its adherents don't go to the side fanaticism, religion can be a good thing.

    Faith, however, has nothing to do with religion. Faith, regardless of what religion you're a part of, is how we can talk and relate to God. Faith is never evil, but sometimes religion can be.
     
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    Well now, you're entering into pure conjecture there. I'm pretty sure that Adam and Eve are iconic representations, not historical figures.
     
  17. emw macrumors G4

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    Yes, faith and spirituality are not linked only to religion. Religion, in my mind, is an organized assembly of ideals and doctrines designed to regulate faith and promote specific interpretations of historical events to the exclusion of other beliefs.
     
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    Then why is Jesus referred to as the second Adam?
     
  19. emw macrumors G4

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    He's also referred to as the "Son of God," but there is no more historical proof of God than there is of Adam.
     
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    Fair enough. That's where faith comes in I suppose.
     
  21. Sogo macrumors 6502

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    I personaly don't think that religion is the root of all evil, its the leaders who use the name of religion to do what they want.
     
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    I wouldn't say religion is the root of ALL evil, but it is certainly a major cause. I'm from Northern Ireland. :p I've seen what it does firsthand.

    When is the program on again by the way?
     
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    Couldn't you say that since religions separate and define good from evil, that they are in fact the root of all evil? Without a religion to tell you that something is evil, would you still think it is? For example, pornography?
     
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    Man is the root of evil and man created many ,many, religions.
     
  25. silverback66 macrumors regular

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    I like C.S Lewis' thoughts on it. Check out the first few chapters of Mere Christianity....don't worry, they aren't even about Christianity but about theories on the existence of God and the nature of good and evil. I can aptly explain it and I won't even try, but I will offer this to consider....Evil is the abscence of God just as darkness is the absent of light and cold is the abscence of warmth. Scientifically speaking, darkness doesn't exist. You can't measure darkness. It's just how we describe the abscnce of light. Similarly so, cold doesn't exist. You cant measure cold. It's how we describe the abscence of warmth. Lastly evil in and of itself doesn't exist. It is merely the abscnence of God. I would encourage you to chew on that a bit before responsing to it.
     

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