Is Sun copying Apple's design?

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  1. iris_failsafe macrumors 6502

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  2. maya macrumors 68040

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    Does it really matter anymore. :rolleyes:

    People buy servers for its performance and reliability, and looks come last considering very few people actually see it on a daily basis. ;)
     
  3. mdavey macrumors 6502a

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    I think it is just you. Recent Sun kit looks ugly. They had some nice-looking machines a few years ago but seem to have lost the plot with regards to aesthetics since then.
     
  4. londonweb macrumors 6502

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    Let's not forget that many moons ago a young Steve Jobs stole the idea for a pointing device known as a 'mouse' and based the interface for Mac OS on software he saw during a visit to Sun Microsystems.

    I'm surprised they never got that upset about it...
     
  5. cube macrumors G4

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    That was Xerox, not Sun. It was Xerox management's fault, not Apple's.
     
  6. janey macrumors 603

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    it was xerox PARC (tbh, xerox was an idiot when it came to the magical things that came out of PARC), but to be honest, they needed something extra - they lacked a bit of marketing ability, but that's what jobs had to make it successful.
     
  7. londonweb macrumors 6502

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    I've been mis-informed then...

    A sad demise for Xerox then, relegated to a life of making over-complicated photo-copiers.
     
  8. AmbitiousLemon Moderator emeritus

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    Not only is that Xerox (mentioned by others) but Apple also paid for the ideas, they didn't steal them.
     
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    Sun servers have been looking like that for years.

    Where:

    that=ugly
     
  11. mdavey macrumors 6502a

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    Ultra 80 and V100 weren't bad at the time. SunRay 100 is nice, too. Things started to go wrong with the Blade 100 and 1000.
     
  12. strider42 macrumors 65816

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    I'd also point out that the idea for a mouse predated xerox by decades. Xerox had a spatial user interface that was unique. But Mac OS was significantly different in form and structure than what xerox had. It was a starting point, not a wholesale ripoff. Also, xerox never commercially produced anything with it. They jsut had a few engineers come up with something neat and didn't know what to do with it.
     
  13. plinden macrumors 68040

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    This is a quote from Steve Wozniak's website, link (my emphasis below):
     
  14. jacobj macrumors 65816

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    Close, but no cigar!

    [​IMG]
     
  15. adk macrumors 68000

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    yep, Sun definitely ripped off apple. any piece of aluminum with holes in it is a direct ripoff of apple. :rolleyes:
     
  16. bugfaceuk macrumors 6502

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    That's certainly true, there was a brief period of "looks less like a brick that it used to", but we seem to have gone from brick to "plastic fantastic" to "brick. with holes"....

    Not a workstation you want to have on your desk.
     
  17. Daedalus256 macrumors 6502

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    OH MY GOD IT HAS A GRATED LOOK TO THE FRONT ZOMG CLEARLY THEY ARE COPYING. :rolleyes:
     
  18. lucius macrumors member

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    Those Sun servers running Solaris 10 are a heck of a lot faster than the XServe though ... up to 32 processing threads in one server is a pretty awesome scaling. I'd love to see Apple make inroads into the enterprise server market but the XServe and OS X have a long way to go (just look at the poor performance of things like MySQL on OSX). <optimism>I'm sure Apple will get there though</optimism>
     
  19. Rocksaurus macrumors 6502a

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    It's not really necessary to tease this guy so relentlessly... There are similarities between it and the Xserve, but what I think everyone's trying to say is that these things are so ugly that saying that they're ripping off Apple is a compliment. :)
     
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  21. lucius macrumors member

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    Do you know I've been thinking that for years now but they still manage to hang in there. They have open sourced Solaris, on the one hand, but they won't fully give up control over Java on the other. Strange company. Then they release cheap Opteron based servers and cheap super computer servers (like the T1000/2000). There's still something interesting happening in Sun - not sure where its going to go. I wonder if Google would buy them, or Microsoft for that matter ... God knows, Microsoft could do with taking a leaf out of Apple's book and ditching a proprietary OS in favour of a solid Unix based one.
     
  22. mdavey macrumors 6502a

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    Hmm, well their revenue was $3.3billion for the last quarter and they have $4.2billion cash in the bank, so they aren't doing too badly. Their stock is currently sitting at around $4.4 (it was at $3.5 not so long ago).

    There aren't many companies that can offer a server for less than $1000, a server with a single 8 core (32 thread) processor and a server with 72 dual-core processors (144 threads), all running the same OS.

    I wouldn't write them off just yet.
     
  23. TheMasin9 macrumors 6502a

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    looks can be deciving

    no matter how much they try, APPLE DID IT FIRST!!!!
     
  24. jhu macrumors 6502a

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    that would be interesting if ms bought sun. they could add a win32 api on top of solaris and improve the usability of project looking glass. and they can sell solid machines.
     
  25. bugfaceuk macrumors 6502

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    I used to think that, but I think it's beginning to find its feet.
     

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