Is the Light at the End of the Tunnel the Light of an Oncoming Train?

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  1. skunk macrumors G4

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3562388.stm
    The oil supply situation is not going to get any better. The "quagmire" certainly hasn't helped. Is anybody really paying attention? This could get critical really quickly.
     
  2. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    http://www.ems.org/rls/2004/01/28/oil_supply_short.html

    and, later:
    Anyone making any plans?
     
  3. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    BI-cycle, BI-cycle
    I want to ride my bicycle
    I want to ride my bike
    I want to ride my bicycle
    I want to ride it where I like

    :D


    Lethal
     
  4. takao macrumors 68040

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    hmmm untill oil price hits 70-90 $ or more, not much will happen..... at the moment the gasoline prices are still the same even after the increase from 30 to nearly 50$

    in the oil crisis of the 70ties the price for a barrel was around 80$, if you put inflation into calculation
    so it's still far away of that mark
     
  5. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Happy to be of assistance.
     
  6. Leo Hubbard macrumors newbie

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    I was thinking of buying a hybrid. Problem, besides the manufacturer who knows how to fix one? Also I heard the batteries cost as much as an engine and has to be replaced once a year. Not a realistic option for me :(
     
  7. job macrumors 68040

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    Honestly, a situation like this has just been a matter of time.

    Eventually we Americans were going to have to wake up and realize that $1.29 (before the increase in prices) per gallon was too cheap. But no...we basked in our wonderfully gigantic and fuel-eating cars. Oh well. I get 25 mpg anyways. So what do I care, right? :p
     
  8. amnesiac1984 macrumors 6502a

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    you need a car that does at least 55mpg like mine, then you can stop worrying so much.
     
  9. kerb macrumors regular

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    25 mpg!!!

    i get about 50 or so.


    american cars should just be banned starting with the Hummer whose fuel efficiency is measured in gallons to the mile.
     
  10. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    I come up around 50, with overtinflated tires. (You English are all cheaters, with your 120% "gallon." ;) )

    Or ∞ , if I'm on my bike.

    Ironically, riding the bike more than 10 miles costs more than driving my TDI when I factor in Clif Shots and Powerbars as fuel.

    I'm planning on upgrading to a Marinoni frame (for the punishing hillclimbing in my area) this winter, and rigging the old Trek for touring/commuting.
     
  12. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    It's only fair: our "gallons" are 20% bigger and 200% more expensive, and I only get 20-25mpg. Count your blessings.
     
  13. amnesiac1984 macrumors 6502a

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    What kind of TDI you got? is it a golf? I've got a peugeot 306 TDI it really goes and drinks so little diesel.
     
  14. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    '98 VW TDi New Beetle here. i've got a lead foot but can still go 6-8 weeks between fillups.

    w/ the right driving conditions, i can get 63 mpg on the highway. w/ the A/C and stereo going, too. :)
     
  15. job macrumors 68040

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    Hah, I wish I had a TDI!

    Or a Mercedes CDI for that matter.

    I'm driving a 1985 Mercedes 190E 2.3 (an inline 4.) It's older than I am and I don't drive it hard at all. Still compared to what some of my friends get (11mpg! :eek: ) it's a lot.

    Diesel rocks though.
     
  16. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Quite right. High crime rates are great news for burglars and bank robbers.
     
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    That just gave me a great Idea! I have observations I have to do for my classes in the fall. It is kind of around the corner. I may just ride my bike over! I may also walk...

    I'm going to try and do my 10 weeks of student teaching in the spring there, too, if I like it. WOW then gases prices can do whatever they please!
     
  19. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    Unfortunately, there are no Italian or French car models to pick from (unless you're looking for a Maserati, Ferrari or Lambo), as Renault (in 'Merica= REN-alt), Peugeot (PEW-jut) and Fiat stopped importing long ago.

    VW was the only non-truck DERV game in town for awhile, but now that high fuel prices are here to stay there's speculation about more diesel models coming this way. Merc is putting the Ds back in the lineup. The Jeep Liberty is a sure thing, and Ford could bring over the Focus diesel engine for the US market.

    Hybrids just suck, especially for climates with four seasons.
     
  20. themadchemist macrumors 68030

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    but who cares about Louisiana? ;) :p
     

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