iSight not worth it?

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by vgd09, Sep 30, 2003.

  1. macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2003
    #1
    I was wondering -- and somebody please prove me wrong, but, is the iSight really overpriced? I mean, I have a QuickCam 3000 and it cost exactly $100 bucks. It came with AWESOME movie-recording, animation (stop-motion, timelapse), webcam, etc. software. The quality is great, and the design is efficient. (You can remove the head of it and move it around so its your viewing area isnt limited. It doesn't clip on to moniors, but it has a stand.

    The iSight is $150. iChat AV, which is the only software that works with it right now, is still in beta. The iSight comes with no recording software, no extras and it has to be clipped on to a monitor to stand up correctly. And, as I have seen, the quality isn't that much better than the Quickcam's.

    Please enlighten me.
     
  2. macrumors 6502a

    LimeLite

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2003
    Location:
    Los Angeles, Ca
    #2
    From what I understand, the iSight works with Quicktime Broadcaster also, which is free, and does let you record in many kinds of compression, and then lets you broadcast those files. (It allows for live broadcast as well.) We'll see if there are any further features in the full release of iChat AV.
     
  3. macrumors 6502a

    macphoria

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2002
    #3
    Judging by the quality of image you get on iSight, I do not think it is over priced. Also, Apple makes their peripherals to work specifically with their hardwares. So it is expected that their peripheral, such as iSight, will give you the best result.
     
  4. macrumors 6502a

    Genie

    Joined:
    May 25, 2003
    Location:
    heaven
    #4
    Apple gave me mine free, so I can't complain. Haven't used it yet, though.
     
  5. macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2001
    #5
    Let's see, I paid over $100 for the FW iBot with no mic and it was quite ugly and it had to gently balance on that stupid wire foot. The iSight adds a mic (which towers don't seem to come with) and a more centered and easier mounting option.

    I feel my money was well spent. As so do my parents on the other side of iChat :)
     
  6. macrumors member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    #6
    Well, I think the iSight is overpriced. I don't think Apple is good enough to build a better quality webcam (well, they could have choosen better quality lenses, but it seems not from reviews I've read around).

    I do think the main improvement in the iChat AV + iSight combo is the iChat AV software. I actually had video/audio chats (one-way from them) with two friends, one with a webcam the other with his camcorder and everything was ok (we tried over DSL so even with iSight the video would have been just ok), while the audio (from the built-in microphone) was just great.

    I do not think anything in the iSight makes it worth the overprice. But i do believe that the monitor clip is actually a good think.

    Anidel.
     
  7. macrumors 6502a

    DreaminDirector

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2002
    Location:
    Ladera Ranch, CA
    #7
    I actually think you're getting alot for what you pay for. I mean there are all sorts of uses for the iSight. I carry a powerbook with me and (when I get an iSight), I'll probably shoot some random things that I find interesting. Also the quality is amazing high.

    Besides, no one said it would be cheap to live on the bleeding edge...
     
  8. macrumors member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    #8
    Why you shouldn't be able to do the same with other webcams?

    I continue to believe it's a bit overpriced.
    But I'll buy it one day anyway as I'd love to put it on my pb.
    :)

    Anidel.
     
  9. macrumors member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2003
    Location:
    Venice, CA
    #9
    Bad in low light

    A friend got an iSight and I helped get it going. We had to put a coffee cup on the base to keep it from falling over on a shelf above the monitor. There was only a wall mounted lamp close by but the video was very dim. Be sure to have a strong lightsource available that illuminates your face or look like a vision from the another world.
     
  10. macrumors 6502a

    Schiffi

    Joined:
    May 22, 2003
    Location:
    Missouri
    #10
    The iSight will probably work in iMovie. I used it in Premiere and it worked like a charm, so I doubt Final Cut or iMovie are any different. My iSight is pretty good with luminance. All I need is the ceiling light on and I'm ready to rumble.
     
  11. Moderator emeritus

    robbieduncan

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Location:
    London
    #11
    The iSight DOES NOT work in iMovie. This has been covered in a number of places. The only way to get footage into iMovie from an iSight would be to find some way to save the stream as a QuickTime file and import that.
     
  12. macrumors P6

    wdlove

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2002
    #12
    May I ask how you got Apple to give you an iSight free? Just found out that the Apple loan 180 days same as cash program has been cancelled? :(
     
  13. macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2003
    #13
    Here is how some people got one for free:
    http://www.macdailynews.com/wwdc_keynote.php
    Here is an excerpt from that link:
    "Different camera mounts for different Macs - places iSight on top of screen. Available today. Cost: US$149. All developers in attendance get a free iSight camera."
     
  14. macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    #14
    Derrick Story explains iSight movie-making.

    Nevertheless, you *can* use iSight to make movies on your Mac.

    http://www.macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/3976

    Enjoy!
     
  15. macrumors 6502a

    jimthorn

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    Location:
    Huntington Beach, CA, USA
    #15
    You can remove the head of the iSight and move it around as well.

    The iSight has a stand, monitor mount, and laptop clip.

    It also works with Yahoo Chat, so you can even video chat with your PC friends.

    Check out Quicktime Broadcaster (free) or the similar iRecordNow. Both do a nice job of capturing video, and the built-in mic on the iSight works well. Import the files into iMovie and have fun editing and such. I've done it. It's fun.

    For extras, check out iStopMotion. The Lite Version is free, and like the apps I mentioned above, it works great with the iSight.

    Also if you really hate the iSight stands, take a look at the ones made by MacMice. One even connects it to a tripod, if you need something like that. And they're cheap.

    This is a matter of opinion. One problem with the Quickcam is that the interface is USB. iSight's FireWire connection is much faster, and can therefore transfer more frames and larger frames per second.
     
  16. macrumors 65816

    ColoJohnBoy

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2003
    Location:
    Denver, Colorado
    #16
    I think the iSight is more than worth the price. It's well-crafted, pleasant to look at, sturdy, and produces high-quality images and sound.

    True, iChat AV is in Beta right now, but wait for the end of this month when Panther comes out. The full version of iChat AV has a whole load of new features. Just wait, it'll be cool.

    iSight, as was said before, also works with QuickTime Broadcaster. There's also a handy program called iRecordNow which captures video taken from the iSight as raw DV footage - you can then import it into iMovie and edit it.

    Plus it's made by Apple. I mean, are we purists or are we purists?!?! :D:D:D
     
  17. macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2003
    #17
    Without sound unfortunately, arf arf! Mac-PC Video chatting is only possible through OhphoneX, iVisit or Marratech.
     
  18. macrumors 6502a

    LimeLite

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2003
    Location:
    Los Angeles, Ca
    #18
    I'm pretty sure that's because Yahoo doesn't support sound...
     
  19. macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2003
    Location:
    Chesapeake, VA USA
    #19
    You can do what??
     
  20. macrumors P6

    wdlove

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2002
    #20
    Re: Derrick Story explains iSight movie-making.

    The suggestion of being able to make movies using iSight, trully makes iSight more attractive. I have Quicktime Pro. Now to figure out how to accomplish the task.
     

Share This Page