Isn't this illegal to install ios 7 for other people for money?

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    It's basically up to Apple to enforce any civil action.
     
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    He would probably tell the court that the money was not for the software or the UDID registration but the cost of his time to do it.
     
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    I think someone needs to call him up and pretend to be from Apple. Ask him where you can serve him with papers for the lawsuit. LOL
     
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    My couzin knows a guy who earned like $800 by selling udid spots online. All I know is I'm doing it next year haha
     
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    Why? Do Apple appear cares someone do something like that? I know lots of computer store installing pirate Windows for a small fee.

    At company this large, corporate simply does not care something small like this. Have you ever see Apple sue some random user for Hackintosh? There are quite few Hackintosh users on youtube. Or do you ever see Microsoft suing a random people in the street using pirated user?
     
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    And Apple simply wouldn't even want sue this guy or any guy. It is economically not make sense.
     
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    Yeah! Lets tie up our already overburdened court system because somebody is installing iOS beta's when they shouldn't!
     
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    Illegal is gray. Definitely a terms violation if he's selling UDID slots. Which will get him banned if caught and those UDIDs with him.

    But whether they could sue him etc, maybe maybe not
     
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    Harvey Specker would win this case in court. :D
     
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    If this guy can jailbreak 6.1.3. like he claims then the $25 are worth it :D
     
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    There's a difference between 'breach of contract' and 'illegal.' No legislature has passed any laws making it illegal to sell access to Apple's beta test. There are no laws protecting beta tests. There is, however, a contract that all developers agree to stipulating that they will not give access to non-developers through their accounts; your Craigslist guy is willing to breach that contract knowing that Apple will probably never bother going after him for it.
     
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    Not in the real free world, ie Europe.
     
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    Of course there are laws making it illegal. It's called copyright law. :confused:
     
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    That law does not apply here.

    Apple don't sell iOS updates - so they are free to the public upon release, anyway. Apple have their own agreements with developers not to distribute beta software - punishment for doing do is having their dev account revoked.
     
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    Oh jeez - I hope it isn't illegal. I've been charging my family & friends to install iOS 6 on their devices since last December! :rolleyes:
     
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    You agree to an NDA when you download the beta.
    This contract is between you and Apple.
    By giving access to the beta to third parties, you violate the NDA.
    If you do it for money or not is irrelevant.
     
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    1. The question was about Baltimore, MD, USA. Not South Africa.
    2. South Africa obviously has copyright laws.

    None of that is true with respect to copyright law.
     
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    Copyright does not apply. Downloading the beta does require agreement to an NDA. Whatever laws in your country might apply is not important, because Apple might sue because of your NDA contract violation.
     
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    You probably should read his second paragraph.
     
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    Copyright always applies. Distribution and reproduction of a computer program requires the permission of the copyright holder subject to specific limitations.

    I read his second paragraph. It is incorrect.
     
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    I don't think it is illegal. iOS 6 is free and downloadable everywhere. What you charging is for the process of installing iOS 6, not charing for iOS 6 itself.
     
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    The person you quoted was being sarcastic..hence the rolling eyes.. :cool:
     
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    Their lawyers would likely issue a C&D and that would be that. His dev account should be banned though. Selling UDID slots or selling beta installs is just plain douchy. The spirit of the dev program is not for some ******* to make a quick buck selling beta installs.
     
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    OK. Copyright does not apply because the NDA comes first.

    When you and I agree on a contract and I violate our agreement, any other laws that might apply are not relevant for you to sue me ....

    That was what I was trying to say.
    Any number of additional laws might apply, but they are not relevant for Apple to take action.
     

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